RSD Tyler Exposed by RSD Jeffy and Luke

[Zenterus]

In this video, RSD Jeffy and Luke share how Owen's autism limits his game and hint at him not being an authority on the subject of cold approaching AT ALL.

 

What Jeffy basically alludes to in the video is that Owen, because he is on the spectrum, lacks the emotional insight to be able to calibrate in real time. He doesn't have that "emotional sensitivity" the same way someone neurotypical like Jeffy does -- although, stories I heard about Jeffy do point to the fact that he has other issues. 

Therefore, Tyler relies on very polarizing approaches that completely alienate 99% of women, on the hopes of striking gold with the odd girl who views him favourably because of his overly polarizing behaviours.

He lacks social awareness, which is why he can clear out a bar in 10 minutes, get kicked out and not even realize it, which is a function of his asperger's.

Tyler is definitely very smart and motivated. He has a lot of knowledge and wisdom around social dynamics and I've learned a lot from him, however he clearly isn't as good "infield" as RSD would have had you believe.

Thoughts?

 

WATCH FROM 3:43 TO 6:14

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Zenterus

[Raze]

That’s not what he says at all and the video is clearly out of context 

[Zenterus]

@Raze I used to have access to the full clip of the seminar. It is not out of context. 

[Leo Gura]

Sure, makes sense.

Owen popularized flash game, which is not the most effective game. It's flashy so that dudes buy Owen's courses.

Flash game is like clickbait. It's not for the girls, it's for the guys. Flash game is more fun than boring chill safe game.

Flash game is also great for pushing your comfort zone and building state quickly. And just having fun.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Raze]

41 minutes ago, Zenterus said:

@Raze I used to have access to the full clip of the seminar. It is not out of context. 

He said Owen uses a high risk high reward style compared to his, and says he’s a master at calibrating after the fact, that isn’t saying he isn’t an authority 

[Zenterus]

Edited the post for more context 

[Zenterus]

@Raze  He is saying that Owen lacks the social sensitivity to calibrate in real time and thus HAS to rely on crazy polarizing approaches to get results and, as a consequence, approaches a SHIT TON just to get 1 girl. How does that make him an authority?

If I can get better results than Owen with waaayy less effort and I can explain the social dynamics and calibration aspects to you better than he can because Im actually able to read social cues, wouldn't that make me more of an authority than Owen?

He's definitely an authority for people on the spectrum, but neurotypical people shouldn't be taking bootcamps with him.

Granted, he does teach social dynamics on a grand scale. I learned a lot about framing and using social circles in a way to accentuate my cold approaching results. But again, his infield capabilities are literally worse than the students in the seminar room who came to learn from his coaches.

 

I edited the post, please read what I added to it.

[Raze]

23 minutes ago, Zenterus said:

@Raze  He is saying that Owen lacks the social sensitivity to calibrate in real time and thus HAS to rely on crazy polarizing approaches to get results and, as a consequence, approaches a SHIT TON just to get 1 girl. How does that make him an authority?

 

That’s not what he said, he said Owen does it because he is traveling, not that he has to do it.

23 minutes ago, Zenterus said:

If I can get better results than Owen with waaayy less effort and I can explain the social dynamics and calibration aspects to you better than he can because Im actually able to read social cues, wouldn't that make me more of an authority than Owen?

 

You can’t.

This is Owen stealing a girl from a guy hosting a party with his poster on the wall and his arm over the girl. He also publicly dated a playboy play mate. When have you done something like this? 

Also you game in easy mode countries, he is in highly competitive clubs in LA.
 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Raze

[AION]

Mind you that those guys are jealous on the success of Owen Cook. I don’t buy that Owen has autism(he exaggerates his problem). It is just a gimmick to sell his courses. His infield show how he is superb at calibration. My bet: Those guys like Jeffy are jealous on his success. In fact if anything Jeffy is the weird and autistic one. Jeffy comes off as manipulative and low brow. I wouldn’t trust Jeffy with a bag of Cheetos. This guy ran around with a rape fan and his approaches reveal no to almost none morality. 

Edited 1 hour ago by AION

[Leo Gura]

You can record any PUA being brilliant on camera. They shoot 100s of sets and cherrypick the best. That doesn't prove skill.

If you made a highlight reel of all my best approaches, it would look very impressive. But I can't do that consistently.

[Raze]

He very clearly does have autism.

This video was from when they still worked from Owen. The point is they are clips out of context. He clearly wasn’t literally saying Owen is worse than beginner students. 

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, AION said:

I don’t buy that Owen has autism

Even his kid has autism.

He def has it.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[Raze]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You can record any PUA being brilliant on camera. They shoot 100s of sets and cherrypick the best. That doesn't prove skill.

If you made a highlight reel of all my best approaches, it would look very impressive. But I can't do that consistently.

He had one that was all from one night when he was spending most of the time coaching and still had multiple successes in a single night 

 

[Zenterus]

@Raze Brother, Jeffy literally says in the video "..Because I have a high degree of emotional sensitivity from years of cultivating that. But Owen, he doesn't have that, so what does he do..?" And then he reveals Owen's approach. He said its okay for Owen to do that because he is travelling so it doesnt bite him as much in the ass like how it would for his students. He is not saying that this is Owen's approach BECAUSE he is traveling.

I'm literally showing you a seminar clip where his CLOSE ASSOCIATES AND FRIENDS are straight up telling you that he is really bad and, in fact, worse than everyone in the room and you're unable to hear it.

Also Owen's playmate girlfriend was introduced to him by Michael Sartain, and they stayed together for a bit before she dumped him, probably cause of his emotion issues.

Furthermore, you don't know anything about me dude lol You don't know where I game, what my circumstances are and how competitive the world around me is.

I understand that you're a fan of Owen and so am I. But he is not the hero you think he is, although he is admirable for finding ways to work with his limitations.

And again, Owen does get results, clearly. So of course he'll have infield footage of him succeeding. Keep in mind too that RSD was doing infield bootcamps every weekend for years and filning infield for years, so of course you'll get some gold out of that after years and years of filming yourself going out.. I could have filmed infield back when I was a beginner and got a result once every couple a months and try to market it as me being a pickup god.

[Leo Gura]

Even if your game sucks, if you just go out as consistently as Owen, you will get laid just by accident.

But of course he is capable of good game. He's just not as good as more natural guys. He also has a looks disadvantage.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[Raze]

16 minutes ago, Zenterus said:

@Raze Brother, Jeffy literally says in the video "..Because I have a high degree of emotional sensitivity from years of cultivating that. But Owen, he doesn't have that, so what does he do..?" And then he reveals Owen's approach. He said its okay for Owen to do that because he is travelling so it doesnt bite him as much in the ass like how it would for his students. He is not saying that this is Owen's approach BECAUSE he is traveling.

I'm literally showing you a seminar clip where his CLOSE ASSOCIATES AND FRIENDS are straight up telling you that he is really bad and, in fact, worse than everyone in the room and you're unable to hear it.

Also Owen's playmate girlfriend was introduced to him by Michael Sartain, and they stayed together for a bit before she dumped him, probably cause of his emotion issues.

Furthermore, you don't know anything about me dude lol You don't know where I game, what my circumstances are and how competitive the world around me is.

I understand that you're a fan of Owen and so am I. But he is not the hero you think he is, although he is admirable for finding ways to work with his limitations.

And again, Owen does get results, clearly. So of course he'll have infield footage of him succeeding. Keep in mind too that RSD was doing infield bootcamps every weekend for years and filning infield for years, so of course you'll get some gold out of that after years and years of filming yourself going out.. I could have filmed infield back when I was a beginner and got a result once every couple a months and try to market it as me being a pickup god.

- I posted a video of a single night that shows him getting multiple make outs, numbers, instant dates with girls who just rejected his students, and a girl bringing him to her house, all while he has to pause and keep coaching. That’s not cherry picked over a month, that’s a single night of footage and the focus isn’t even gaming since he is coaching. The average beginner is not doing that,

- Your clip is one 2 minute snippet where Jeff is obviously exaggerating to make a point. He even says Owen is a master at calibration after the fact.

- Owen having less emotional sensitivity than Jeff doesn’t prove anything. Maybe he is saying he is less emotionally sensitive than even the beginner students, but that doesn’t mean someone doesn’t understand game if they lack emotional sensitivity. 

BTW here is a brief recent clip he posted of infield where he isn’t doing any of the crazy physical stuff, so clearly he doesn’t have to do it. 1:30 to 5:21

 

 

- Just getting introduced is not all that matters, you need some game as well, and the long term relationship failing is also irrelevant to initial game skills

- I recall you saying you were located in South Africa. Maybe I mistook you for someone else. But irregardless environment matters.

Edited 1 hour ago by Raze

[Zenterus]

Im not in south africa. I'm also done arguing with you on this. Getting make outs with girls is not the same as actually being good at pickup. You can make out with a girl all you want, but that doesnt mean she wants to see you again. But anyway dude, believe what you want to believe. Jeffy and Luke know Owen personally and are straight up telling you what it is. But sure, an online fanboy knows him better than they do.

[Raze]

6 minutes ago, Zenterus said:

Im not in south africa. I'm also done arguing with you on this. Getting make outs with girls is not the same as actually being good at pickup. You can make out with a girl all you want, but that doesnt mean she wants to see you again.

Yes, same with numbers, but there’s no other evidence that can be given then. I pointed out his ex and you dismissed that as well.

[Zenterus]

@Raze I responded about his ex. Check my previous replies.