Why is freedom from attachment to experience better than being a slave to desire?

[Monster Energy]

20 hours ago, gettoefl said:

Like I say, it is a shift or an awakening from the apparent world to the actual world. It boils down to, what you are and what is here now. What you see with your eyes / in the mirror is a passing appearance and the world is / you are not that. This is the work. Meditation is a good practice. From there you abide in and align with the real you.

That makes sense.

But why does that shift make attachment disappear? Why does the mind stop believing it needs a particular experience to be complete?

 

[VeganAwake]

On 7/21/2026 at 6:48 AM, Monster Energy said:

Could you elaborate on that?

From your perspective, what actually changes so that the urge no longer feels psychologically necessary? Is it simply seeing that there was never a separate self lacking anything, or is there something more to it through direct experience?

 

Urges can still arise, the difference is they aren't arising in someone or for someone, it's no longer personal. 

The experience of being better or worse off due to circumstance ends.

In this case, it's clearly recognized, there isn't an individual that will be better or worse off, whether or not masturbation occurs!

Edited 6 hours ago by VeganAwake

[VeganAwake]

The real trippy part is this is already the case, it just doesn't feel that way.😳

[Monster Energy]

13 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

Urges can still arise, the difference is they aren't arising in someone or for someone, it's no longer personal. 

The experience of being better or worse off due to circumstance ends.

In this case, it's clearly recognized, there isn't an individual that will be better or worse off, whether or not masturbation occurs!

 Thanks for explaining it so clearly.

 

[Monster Energy]

10 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

The real trippy part is this is already the case, it just doesn't feel that way.😳

The intelligence behind that illusion is incredible.

 

[gettoefl]

1 hour ago, Monster Energy said:

I appreciate that. I’m not trying to force anything.

I’m just curious about one thing. Before that realization, what made experiences feel so necessary? And after it, what made that feeling disappear?

 

Life is a hamster wheel. Each is hanging onto dear life. Put a foot wrong and I am six feet under. Life is precarious, perilous, precious - an astonishing miracle that I am breathing air another day. Amid this, I do have to survive. Most think that is all life is about. Surviving and passing the torch to the up and coming generation. When I self-realize, I see that here is a meaningless detour of infinity. Here matters not. Life itself matters. But this isn't life. This is taking a nap from life to explore some random imagination. As the absolute I could not gaze on myself like I can now. All around is my reflection. Now I can look at myself in the mirror for a while. There is no urgency any more, no compulsion, no agenda. After realization I shine light but it's no big deal where it goes or who if any see it. My nap is near over. I'll eat a nice banquet when I open my eyes. Life is good. As always.

Edited 5 hours ago by gettoefl

[Lyubov]

On 7/21/2026 at 7:47 PM, Monster Energy said:

I agree that scarcity mindset plays a role. But I think my question is a bit deeper than that.

I’m not asking how to become less desperate because I believe I can get the experience again. I’m asking how someone realizes they don’t need the experience in order to be whole in the first place.

In other words, what changes so that the experience is enjoyed if it happens, but no longer feels psychologically necessary?

 

You answered it yourself. Realization. Embracing the mystery. Full acceptance of being whole as you are. 

 

2 hours ago, Monster Energy said:

I appreciate that. I’m not trying to force anything.

I’m just curious about one thing. Before that realization, what made experiences feel so necessary? And after it, what made that feeling disappear?

 

Belief. You saw through your beliefs of needing x or y to be whole and saw it as false