Trump rigging the midterms?

[thepixelmonk]

41 minutes ago, something_else said:

The burden of proof is on you. You are claiming there is a massive nation-wide conspiracy. This is something you need to prove.

“Everybody knows it” is not remotely enough evidence to support that claim.

unprovable because blue states refuse to validate their voter information. this is very much enough evidence for us and the save act is going to be passed whether you like it or not. if you think rampant democrat voter fraud is not occurring, you are a complete fool. 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by thepixelmonk

[something_else]

18 minutes ago, thepixelmonk said:

unprovable because blue states refuse to validate their voter information. this is very much enough evidence for us and the save act is going to be passed whether you like it or not. if you think rampant democrat voter fraud is not occurring, you are a complete fool. 

 

You’re claiming a nationwide conspiracy but the only evidence you’ve offered is an unsupported assertion that “blue states refuse to validate voter information” and a video about legal ballot collection (“harvesting”) in California. Neither demonstrates widespread fraudulent votes. If you’re alleging millions of illegal votes, you need evidence of millions of illegal votes, not speculation about what could have happened.

[Raze]

1 hour ago, thepixelmonk said:

unprovable because blue states refuse to validate their voter information. this is very much enough evidence for us and the save act is going to be passed whether you like it or not. if you think rampant democrat voter fraud is not occurring, you are a complete fool. 

- Spencer Pratt was the Republican candidate in one of the most liberal places in the US, why exactly would his loss be explained by voter fraud?

- If California was doing voter fraud wh didn’t they let him go into the runoff and then just fraud it for long time democrat establishment figure there Karen Bass instead of making her go against a leftist

[thepixelmonk]

1 hour ago, something_else said:

You’re claiming a nationwide conspiracy but the only evidence you’ve offered is an unsupported assertion that “blue states refuse to validate voter information” and a video about legal ballot collection (“harvesting”) in California. Neither demonstrates widespread fraudulent votes. If you’re alleging millions of illegal votes, you need evidence of millions of illegal votes, not speculation about what could have happened.

our systems that had no way to check citizenship until last year. states literally could not verify. USCIS only opened up the SAVE database to states for free in 2025. let's see what happened the second they could actually look.

texas ran its full 18 million voter roll and flagged 2,724 potential noncitizens. ohio's secretary of state referred 1,084 noncitizen registrations to DOJ, 167 of whom appear to have cast ballots in a federal election. arkansas found around 240. iowa confirmed 277 with 35 ballots actually counted. tennessee referred 42 to the FBI. florida's election crimes office referred 170 to law enforcement. these are just the states that bothered to look at all.

so no, "it's incredibly rare" isn't a finding. it's what you get when nobody checks. you're measuring the fraud rate with a ruler that has no numbers on it and then telling me the ruler proves there's nothing there. blue states refusing to validate is unsupported? DOJ requested voter rolls from 48 states. thirty states plus DC refused and had to be sued. california, illinois, new york, new jersey, michigan, minnesota, pennsylvania, wisconsin. if there's nothing on those rolls, hand them over and humiliate me. instead they lawyer up.

and the rolls themselves? judicial watch got oregon to agree to review and remove up to 800,000 ineligible registrations. LA county removed 1.2 million. NYC 918,000. colorado 372,000. kentucky 735,000. california is currently being sued over 873,092 registrations that have sat inactive through three-plus federal elections. oregon had registration rates over 100% of eligible population in 35 of 36 counties.

you do not get to leave millions of dead and moved registrations sitting on the books, fight every attempt to audit them, and then lecture us about how there's no evidence.

Edited 4 hours ago by thepixelmonk

[something_else]

1 hour ago, thepixelmonk said:

texas ran its full 18 million voter roll and flagged 2,724 potential noncitizens. ohio's secretary of state referred 1,084 noncitizen registrations to DOJ, 167 of whom appear to have cast ballots in a federal election. arkansas found around 240. iowa confirmed 277 with 35 ballots actually counted. tennessee referred 42 to the FBI. florida's election crimes office referred 170 to law enforcement. these are just the states that bothered to look at all.
 

These are tiny numbers.

Is your argument really that 35 non-citizen ballots in all of Iowa and 42 non-citizen ballots in all of Tennessee are part of a nationwide voter-fraud conspiracy by the democrats?

Many of those are also only potential non-citizen cases, not even the number of confirmed cases.

Even the worst case here of 2,724 out of 18 million in Texas is pretty inconsequential. Texas often has voter margins in the order of 1.5 million votes. 2.7k isn’t putting a dent in that.

Quote

DOJ requested voter rolls from 48 states. thirty states plus DC refused and had to be sued. california, illinois, new york, new jersey, michigan, minnesota, pennsylvania, wisconsin. if there's nothing on those rolls, hand them over and humiliate me. instead they lawyer up.

They lawyered up because the DOJ was asking for vast quantities of completely unredacted voter rolls containing sensitive and personal information about citizens of those states. Many states understandably argued this would be a huge privacy violation.
 

Quote

and the rolls themselves? judicial watch got oregon to agree to review and remove up to 800,000 ineligible registrations. LA county removed 1.2 million. NYC 918,000. colorado 372,000. kentucky 735,000. california is currently being sued over 873,092 registrations that have sat inactive through three-plus federal elections. oregon had registration rates over 100% of eligible population in 35 of 36 counties.

You’re conflating stale registrations with fraudulent votes here. Identifying the people who moved away or failed to vote through several elections does not correlate with fraudulent or illegal voting in any way.

If I move to Thailand tomorrow I’ll still be registered to vote here in the UK for a while, probably years. Does that mean that while I’m gone my vote is going to be stolen by an illegal immigrant to boost up our left wing party’s vote count? No, of course not.

Yea, Oregon should probably have managed its voter role better, but them fucking that up isn’t evidence of a nationwide democrat conspiracy, it’s evidence of mild incompetence in the face of a very challenging administrative task