Jim Newman is really good.

[Wilhelm44]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

He could not. He could not. Notice the word he implies a self. 

I think we going in circles now.

(Talking about the possibility or impossibility of someone else's experience)

It might be a valuable experiment for you to question him personally live on air on one of his monthly zoom meetings.

 

[Joseph Maynor]

@Wilhelm44  I think Jim is saying there both is and is not a self.

[Wilhelm44]

2 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Actually I think he is saying there both is and is not time.  

I wish he had shorter clips, it's hard to just look things up 

[Wilhelm44]

Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

@Wilhelm44  I think Jim is saying there both is and is not a self.

How so ?

[Joseph Maynor]

Just now, Wilhelm44 said:

I wish he had shorter clips, it's hard to just look things up 

I just watched this.  
 

 

[Wilhelm44]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I just watched this.  
 

 

Thanks, will watch on the weekend.

[Inliytened1]

12 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

I think we going in circles now.

(Talking about the possibility or impossibility of someone else's experience)

It might be a valuable experiment for you to question him personally live on air on one of his monthly zoom meetings.

 

I can't question "him" because there is no one to question.  

[Mellowmarsh]

28 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

It's a radical message for sure. Some objections that I have seen in this thread is that it would be impossible for Jim to even function if his sense of separate self was not there anymore. But it's just life happening automatically by itself, without the sense of personal ownership.

(I like the quote you have there: Grief is love with nowhere to go.)

I agree with you. Grasping radical nonduality requires stepping entirely outside the intellectual mind. Because most people rely entirely on their intellect to navigate life, conceptualising a state with "no centre and no boundary" creates massive cognitive dissonance.

An infinitesimally small percentage of the global population fully grasps radical nonduality. Because it negates the very idea of a separate "person" to do the grasping.

At the end of the day, when you personally understand what Jim is pointing to, then that’s all that matters really, what other people think to the contrary is irrelevant, as there’s only your own understanding according to what you are personally hearing within the message.

If people are pushing back with their own personal beliefs, then just let them, it’s not going to amount to a hill of beans, it’s just a load of hot air steaming off. Mostly just blah blah blah, far removed from the clarity within the message.

Edited 23 hours ago by Mellowmarsh

[Wilhelm44]

4 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I agree with you. Grasping radical nonduality requires stepping entirely outside the intellectual mind. Because most people rely entirely on their intellect to navigate life, conceptualising a state with "no centre and no boundary" creates massive cognitive dissonance.

An infinitesimally small percentage of the global population fully grasps radical nonduality. Because it negates the very idea of a separate "person" to do the grasping.

At the end of the day, when you personally understand what Jim is pointing to, then that’s all that matters really, what other people think to the contrary is irrelevant, as there’s only your own understanding according to what you are personally hearing within the message.

If people are pushing back with their own personal beliefs, then just let them, it’s not going to amount to a hill of beans, it’s just a load of hot air steaming off. Mostly just blah blah blah, far removed from the clarity within the message.

Thank you.

[Inliytened1]

6 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I agree with you. Grasping radical nonduality requires stepping entirely outside the intellectual mind. Because most people rely entirely on their intellect to navigate life, conceptualising a state with "no centre and no boundary" creates massive cognitive dissonance.

An infinitesimally small percentage of the global population fully grasps radical nonduality. Because it negates the very idea of a separate "person" to do the grasping.

At the end of the day, when you personally understand what Jim is pointing to, then that’s all that matters really, what other people think to the contrary is irrelevant, as there’s only your own understanding according to what you are personally hearing within the message.

If people are pushing back with their own personal beliefs, then just let them, it’s not going to amount to a hill of beans, it’s just a load of hot air steaming off. Mostly just blah blah blah, far removed from the clarity within the message.

Im trying to show him the Absoluteness of things.  The black and the white.  Reality is in front of you precisely how it is. When there isn't a you, there isn't a you. It is total. 

Edited 23 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Wilhelm44]

9 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I can't question "him" because there is no one to question.  

Jim Noman as Sugarcoat  likes to call him 

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Jim Noman as Sugarcoat  likes to call him 

Just take a burrito.   

[Joseph Maynor]

He has the deadpan shtick down for sure from a comedy perspective. 

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

He has the deadpan shtick down for sure from a comedy perspective. 

Jim Newman is his man. Thanks for posting the "interview". I can listen to that a 1000 times over and it will still be amazing.

[Inliytened1]

8 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

This is a really good pointer when it comes to integrating Absolute Love!  

Yeah I say when you wanna discover Absolute Love go Mexican.  

[Mellowmarsh]

8 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Im trying to show him the Absoluteness of things.  The black and the white.  Reality is in front of you precisely how it is. When there isn't a you, there isn't a you. It is total. 

Well it’s not even possible to show up to your own show.

It goes without saying that the temporary illusion that arises as the sense of a separate self is in no doubt a necessity in life in order for life to function as a human being, no one is denying that.

It’s also clear that the universe was not born with an instruction manual informing it how to function, it’s already driving itself on automatic auto pilot, and takes no passengers. 

[VeganAwake]

🤦‍♂️

[Mellowmarsh]

13 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Thank you.

Mutual respect bro. 🙏

[Joseph Maynor]

 

[Elliott]

I actually worked with a guy that used Newman's same narcissistic manipulation technique, he didn't use it for spirituality just business. His long storied career was tumultuous and ended in flames..... he was not as bad as Newman with it, but it was the same technique. You reel people in acting like they're getting it and then a hard no on something insignificant followed by pointless obfuscation. It worked super good for him on a lot of people, but obviously when people started to catch on eventually, which many never did, everything would crash in an epic. We worked on technical stuff and dealt with people that weren't in that field. He was actually good at his job, but he craved admiration so much that it was his end, if he wasn't narcissistic he would have been very successful. Funny connection though, he called his 'crew' the 'God crew', well, he said that's what it was called, like other people called them that, they all wound up leaving him.

Edited 8 hours ago by Elliott