A verse from Quran and a Hadith from Prophet Muhammad is enough

[Breakingthewall]

9 minutes ago, James123 said:

 

 

1 hour ago, James123 said:

When stomach is empty, entire existence fits in. 

Taste the love man, you won't regret, after you will throw all this bullshit. 

Like Rumi, burned all the books.

Bullshit ? It's so exhausting to talk with defensive narcissist who can't see more than their need of being special. 

Look, what I pointed is almost impossible to understand for a blocked mind like yours, absolutely focused in self image and defense, but make an effort and try to don't insulting.

Edited 23 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[James123]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

 

Bullshit ? It's so exhausting to talk with defensive narcissist who can't see more than their need of being special. 

Look, what I pointed is almost impossible to understand for a blocked mind like yours, absolutely focused in self image and defense, but make an effort and try to don't insulting.

Just love man, just love.

What you say is a fire work without a lighter, light up, burn with love, forget anything and everything.

Truly live. 

Helping to lady for her grocery or petting a cat, or watching her birds is way more meaningful then knowledge, believe me. 

You and experiences or ideas are not important. You are fucking nothing.

Know this, be free. Watch the body as watching someone else

[Breakingthewall]

3 minutes ago, James123 said:

Just love man, just love.

What you say is a fire work without a lighter, light up, burn with love, forget anything and everything.

Truly live. 

Helping to lady for her grocery or petting a cat, or watching her birds is way more meaningful then knowledge, believe me. 

You and experiences or ideas are not important. You are fucking nothing.

Know this, be free. Watch the body as watching someone else

Yes, it's clear that you are full of love and joy. You make a lot of effort to make clear how full of love and happiness you are, but in every sentence it's a smell of narcissism, sadness and desire of superiority. You can't deceive anyone except blind people 

[James123]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Yes, it's clear that you are full of love and joy. You make a lot of effort to make clear how full of love and happiness you are, but in every sentence it's a smell of narcissism, sadness and desire of superiority. You can't deceive anyone except blind people 

İt is not what we think, it is surrendering the thinker.

Love is not a feeling, joy or happiness , it is absolutely being free, therefore absolutely living, it is in living.

One's when you do, I will disappear, you will disappear, just awareness, that's We are.

[Breakingthewall]

7 minutes ago, James123 said:

İt is not what we think, it is surrendering the thinker.

Love is not a feeling, joy or happiness , it is absolutely being free, therefore absolutely living, it is in living.

One's when you do, I will disappear, you will disappear, just awareness, that's We are.

19 minutes ago, James123 said:

 

Every word that you emit has the sole purpose of elevate your self image. Then there is no sense or real content, there is no conversation possible, sadly. I tried but it's useless.

[VeganAwake]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

Every word that you emit has the sole purpose of elevate your self image. Then there is no sense or real content, there is no conversation possible, sadly. I tried but it's useless.

Thats because "your" projection of "him", is a real "separate self" with its own theory of reality, which doesn't obviously match "yours" 

But "he's" not pushing a conceptualized theory like "you" are!

"He's" attempting to point out that the identification as the conditioned "thinker/knower", is the main misunderstanding being overlooked.

There is no real content to what "he" is saying because "he" is pointing out the content free nature of reality, once the thinker has been surrendered.

Basically he's not in the business of having a conversation, and going back and forth with that which is caught up identified as the knower!

 

When the mirage of the ice cold Dr Pepper machine in the desert is recognized to be unreal, you don't keep endlessly chasing it!

Unless it wasn't seen through!

[James123]

26 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

Thats because "your" projection of "him", is a real "separate self" with its own theory of reality, which doesn't obviously match "yours" 

But "he's" not pushing a conceptualized theory like "you" are!

"He's" attempting to point out that the identification as the conditioned "thinker/knower", is the main misunderstanding being overlooked.

There is no real content to what "he" is saying because "he" is pointing out the content free nature of reality, once the thinker has been surrendered.

Basically he's not in the business of having a conversation, and going back and forth with that which is caught up identified as the knower!

 

When the mirage of the ice cold Dr Pepper machine in the desert is recognized to be unreal, you don't keep endlessly chasing it!

Unless it wasn't seen through!

Fuck me.

You get it my brother, you fucking get it.

Let's fly, let's fly, let's fly.

La İlahe İllallah.

[Breakingthewall]

48 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

Thats because "your" projection of "him", is a real "separate self" with its own theory of reality, which doesn't obviously match "yours" 

But "he's" not pushing a conceptualized theory like "you" are!

"He's" attempting to point out that the identification as the conditioned "thinker/knower", is the main misunderstanding being overlooked.

There is no real content to what "he" is saying because "he" is pointing out the content free nature of reality, once the thinker has been surrendered.

Then who is making that reasoning? "You"? It's also a logical reasoning, same than when you say that the self doesn't exist, another logical reasoning. 

 Anyway, think what "you" want to feel safe 

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[Breakingthewall]

14 minutes ago, James123 said:

Fuck me.

You get it my brother, you fucking get it.

Let's fly, let's fly, let's fly.

La İlahe İllallah.

Yeah, you are so authentic. Like the other. Spiritual people....

[James123]

4 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Yeah, you are so authentic. Like the other. Spiritual people....

 

 

[Someone here]

On ٢٠‏/٦‏/٢٠٢٦ at 2:04 PM, James123 said:

And We have already created man and know what his soul whispers to him, and We are closer to him than [his] jugular vein."
— Surah Qaf / Quran 

One of my favorites. The Quran is so heart touching.

this Recitation from this chapter is very powerful.

 

[James123]

5 minutes ago, Someone here said:

One of my favorites. The Quran is so heart touching.

this Recitation from this chapter is very powerful.

 

Wow. I never heard before. Amazing. 

Directly goosebumps.

[James123]

27 minutes ago, Someone here said:

One of my favorites. The Quran is so heart touching.

this Recitation from this chapter is very powerful.

 

Yo, what a amazing recitation. Unbelievable. I never heard the Quran with this beauty.

[Someone here]

@James123 the Quran was said to be channeled through infinite intelligence. 
Even if you are Urdu and don’t understand Arabic it still touch you.

[James123]

6 hours ago, Someone here said:

@James123 the Quran was said to be channeled through infinite intelligence. 
Even if you are Urdu and don’t understand Arabic it still touch you.

This is the sound of existence, through mouth of God.

La İlahe İllallah.

[Mellowmarsh]

14 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Yeah, you are so authentic. Like the other. Spiritual people....

Are You authentic ?

You  Are

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Are You authentic ?

You  Are

You are, but you could have a lie in your basis, or maybe you have removed that lie. Humans function by emotion, and emotion makes us to lie ourselves, because we can't face the truth. 

Then you could be integral, committed to the truth, or you can seek your emotional well-being by making that commitment more...lax. Then you're simply a liar, as we can see so often 

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[James123]

12 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

You are, but you could have a lie in your basis, or maybe you have removed that lie. Humans function by emotion, and emotion makes us to lie ourselves, because we can't face the truth. 

Then you could be integral, committed to the truth, or you can seek your emotional well-being by making that commitment more...lax. Then you're simply a liar, as we can see so often 

This is exactly clear.

But what I say is not no self, like belief, or non duality.

All i say is a so called person is an accumulation of thoughts. So, there is not an actual person in body.

So, all knowledge, experience including experience of no self belongs to body, what is left?

That's all. 

[Breakingthewall]

5 minutes ago, James123 said:

All i say is a so called person is an accumulation of thoughts. So, there is not an actual person in body.

That's not the case. A person is a hyper-complex process created in the depths of evolutionary time, possessing fixed structures and the capacity for learning.

What is learned, what you call thoughts, becomes a stable part of that process; it is not an illusion, it is entirely real. A human is conscious of themselves and of the reality outside of themselves, with which they constantly exchange information.

There is no illusion if you perceive yourself as separate from another human being. You are. As ultimate reality, you may be the same, but as a process, you are two. Spirituality invents concepts that provide emotional relief, but they have the flaw of being false.

[James123]

15 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

That's not the case. A person is a hyper-complex process created in the depths of evolutionary time, possessing fixed structures and the capacity for learning.

What is learned, what you call thoughts, becomes a stable part of that process; it is not an illusion, it is entirely real. A human is conscious of themselves and of the reality outside of themselves, with which they constantly exchange information.

There is no illusion if you perceive yourself as separate from another human being. You are. As ultimate reality, you may be the same, but as a process, you are two. Spirituality invents concepts that provide emotional relief, but they have the flaw of being false.

My brother, 

I am not trying to race or be right, but believe me, there is not a person in body.

Therefore, all these knowledges illusion, separate self, oneness, twoness are all belongs to body and mind. 

You are always what You are, I am always what I am, whatever you believe, will not change anything. 

Therefore, as prophet Muhammad say "All is one, One is all".

La İlahe İllallah.