Provide counterarguments

[Basman]

2 hours ago, Socrates said:

The only experiment that's actually about you is the one you run on yourself. That's not arrogance — it's just correct epistemology.

It's not 🤢, it's 🤮

[PsychedelicEagle]

On 5/23/2026 at 1:27 AM, Leo Gura said:

Metabolism is unique per person.

 

On 5/23/2026 at 1:27 AM, Leo Gura said:

Your body can tell you things that no scientist can.

Yes, and I would add that one should complement their subjective assessment with "objective" biomarkers such as blood, urine, stool, etc., types of tests. Some of these are cheap and can catch things that one may be oblivious to. Speaking from personal experience.

Part of the scientific literature addresses populational averages (e.g., nutritional guidelines for an entire country), but there is also a lot of useful information about references and causal relationships of biomarkers that one can leverage to understand their particular nutritional status.

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by PsychedelicEagle

[PsychedelicEagle]

On 5/23/2026 at 2:33 AM, Hojo said:

The best argument is that they change it all the time. That means they are grifting what they know. Science always makes absolute claims about something they know absolutely nothing about.

The food pyramid will change again and again and again. Its changed like 4 times since I've been alive.

Its just a guess and it's always a wrong guess that they are always right about.

You can make the distinction that the media reporting scientific findings is what make absolute claims. (Good) nutrition scientists will give you nuanced and non-absolute perspectives.

Also, the fact that the pyramid changes doesn't mean it's useless. Someone starting from ground zero is better off following it than not. Only after you add personalization the odds of good health outcomes may increase with deviation from what's recommended for the average. Without personalization, a random person is better off following it than random eating.

Edited 3 hours ago by PsychedelicEagle

[Hojo]

@PsychedelicEagle my problem is science will claim it to be true. Then change their mind. Science cant say anything is true but say everything they come up with is true and can't be argued. This is bullying.

Its not just media its scientists and the population.

If science said here's a food pyramid but its wrong then I wouldn't have a problem.

Edited 49 minutes ago by Hojo