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9 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

just thought, if you reach state where self and reality are one as you say, how is that different from “no self” because it sounds like no boundary, and the self has to do with boundary for me. Yea you can say “reality is self” but then I feel the word self looses meaning a little…

Because there is recognition of being and registration of the experience. Maybe psychologically you reach a state where there is not differentiation, and subject and object are one, but your structure as a human mind means recognition of being. For me recognition means self. Then this self gets more and more elaborated , dual, social, anything, but its basis is recognition of being 

The point is that if you reach that state then the feeling is that there are no limits, it's the same anything, even being unconscious, everything is the reality, and you are that, so death is not a limit. But that doesn't mean that you are god or that after this experience you won't suffer anymore. 

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43 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Because there is recognition of being and registration of the experience. Maybe psychologically you reach a state where there is not differentiation, and subject and object are one, but your structure as a human mind means recognition of being. For me recognition means self. Then this self gets more and more elaborated , dual, social, anything, but its basis is recognition of being 

The point is that if you reach that state then the feeling is that there are no limits, it's the same anything, even being unconscious, everything is the reality, and you are that, so death is not a limit. But that doesn't mean that you are god or that after this experience you won't suffer anymore. 

But the actual point is that this real reality is a simulation, it’s both real and unreal. Yet, neither. That’s the point.

 

How can oneness have an argument with itself, it’s like pistols at dawn. 

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Grief is Love with Nowhere to Go 

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14 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

For me recognition means self. Then this self gets more and more elaborated , dual, social, anything, but its basis is recognition of being 

Yes, it certainly feels like there is a real conscious being, observing and experiencing reality from a dual subject/object perspective.

Trace this recognition/experience backwards to its source.

Where is it coming from?

What is it exactly, that is claiming to have these experiences?

What does it consist of?


“Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle.

"I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi

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