Starving Patriarchy

[Wilhelm44]

10 hours ago, Lila9 said:

She is the real deal.

Here is her Substack article debunking misunderstandings about matriarchy:

https://lettersfromayoungmatriarch.substack.com/p/its-not-women-rule

Thank you, I actually really enjoyed her video. I was thinking if you ladies want to promote the matriarchy, I would use words like egalitarian more often. Because when us guys here the word matriarchy, we immediately think its gonna be exactly like patriarchy but women have all the power. And that's not what she is saying at all.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

10 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Thank you, I actually really enjoyed her video. I was thinking if you ladies want to promote the matriarchy, I would use words like egalitarian more often. Because when us guys here the word matriarchy, we immediately think its gonna be exactly like patriarchy but women have all the power. And that's not what she is saying at all.

Exactly - which is why how it is phrased makes all the difference to how it is received.

I personally do not like speaking about structures within society with any sort of gendered attribute.

I find it needlessly polarizing and in some cases completely incorrect.

It also runs the risk of men and women feeling shame for things they are not responsible for - but have the power to change.

[Wilhelm44]

18 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Exactly - which is why how it is phrased makes all the difference to how it is received.

I personally do not like speaking about structures within society with any sort of gendered attribute.

I find it needlessly polarizing and in some cases completely incorrect.

It also runs the risk of men and women feeling shame for things they are not responsible for - but have the power to change.

Yes, so the question is, why even call it a matriarchy at all ? Why not just call it egalitarian, and then everyone's happy.

Edited 8 hours ago by Wilhelm44

[Wilhelm44]

Her videos are pretty good. "Unlearning internalized capitalism" and "starving the patriarchy" seem to be different ways of saying the same thing.

[Willy Phallicus]

14 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

This move would be a Patriarchal move. 

Yeah no shit.  Tell me something I dont know.

Its the patriarchy that gave you feminism which is moving its pet project called feminism into its conquest phase called matriarchy.

If the patriarchy didnt want feminism then you wouldn't have it.  

Edited 3 hours ago by Willy Phallicus

[Wilhelm44]

1 hour ago, Willy Phallicus said:

Yeah no shit.  Tell me something I dont know.

Its the patriarchy that gave you feminism which is moving its pet project called feminism into its conquest phase called matriarchy.

If the patriarchy didnt want feminism then you wouldn't have it.  

I'm sure there are feminists out there who are more about conquest, but it seems that the type of matriarchy talked about here, refers to an egalitarian society. So the term matriarchy might be a bit misleading.

[Willy Phallicus]

It always begins with good intentions,  it always ends in hell.

Egalitarian human society is a myth.  The human, male or female, just doesn't have it in itself to overcome its petty hamunit nature.  

Capitalism doesnt work for the same reason communism doesnt work which is the same reason why patriarchy and matriarchy don't work - humans are overseeing it and human is the problem.

That doesn't mean we stop striving, evolution or bust, but if there was an actual solution it won't based on any mass movements - like matriarchy.

Edited 2 hours ago by Willy Phallicus

[Willy Phallicus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrRcl70q1iw

[Wilhelm44]

2 minutes ago, Willy Phallicus said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrRcl70q1iw

LOL, as far as the egalitarian society thing goes, it might not be so far fetched after all. I remember when covid happened and they couldn't make movies, it was like movie stars began to lose that magical aura overnight. People have lost all respect for politicians because everything is more transparent now. AI will make differentiation based on knowledge irrelevant. And eventually the billionaires will be forced to share the abundance if they dont want to live in absolute hell. Im not saying an egalitarian society will come about through our own selflessness, but it kinda seems like evolution is pushing us in that direction for our own survival.

[Rafael Thundercat]

2 hours ago, Willy Phallicus said:

Yeah no shit.  Tell me something I dont know.

Its the patriarchy that gave you feminism which is moving its pet project called feminism into its conquest phase called matriarchy.

If the patriarchy didnt want feminism then you wouldn't have it.  

I will not explain how you are wrong. You do you. Look for more Requisit Variety. Read more, study more. 

[Rafael Thundercat]

19 hours ago, enchanted said:

@Rafael Thundercatinteresting perspective! 

After all the YouTube videos comes the hard part: finding out what's actually true. 

. Keep in mind that if everyone on the forum is so easily deluded, as you claim, then you could be too. No matter how many YouTube videos you watched

Good, watch the video and bring value to the conversation. Saying things obvious like " Keep in mind that if everyone on the forum is so easily deluded, as you claim, then you could be too. No matter how many YouTube videos you watched" is already a repetitive inefficient behavior on the Forum leading nowhere, since as far as God Realization wise we are all delulu. It dont stop us to be constructive in out efforts to bring systemic change in society even if is only in our own local surroundings. Delulu or not we have things we get involved socialy. If this topic interest you engage and bring value otherwise just dont be a prick. 

[Wilhelm44]

8 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

I will not explain how you are wrong. You do you. Look for more Requisit Variety. Read more, study more. 

With all due respect, How about being a little bit more open to actually having a proper discussion in these threads if you really want the message to land. Like human beings talking to each other, instead of just directing each other to reading material. Just a thought.

[Rafael Thundercat]

1 hour ago, Wilhelm44 said:

And eventually the billionaires will be forced to share the abundance if they dont want to live in absolute hell

The Natives from what today is America knew something the white man insist in ignore. Sitting Bull even was able to affirm that white man have one talent that is valuable. But also was able to see the wound or the blindspot. 

"The white man knows how to make everything, but he does not know how to distribute it.

— Sitting Bull

 

[Willy Phallicus]

1 hour ago, Wilhelm44 said:

AI will make differentiation based on knowledge irrelevant. And eventually the billionaires will be forced to share the abundance if they dont want to live in absolute hell. Im not saying an egalitarian society will come about through our own selflessness, but it kinda seems like evolution is pushing us in that direction for our own survival.

I can agree with this to an extent.  I think the tech has the potential to be the shake up we need. But first, things are going to get sorted out in a painful and brutal technotronic nightmare.  By eliminating what is destructible will give rise to what is indestructible - Nietzsche's overman.  Then maybe someday some sentient wont be born into a world that totally sucks ass.

21 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

I will not explain how you are wrong.

Its not that you won't its because you can't.  And Im fine with it because Im not really looking to get into a debate on the subject, least of all with people who have no idea where they are or what time it is.  

This isn't a discussion I can really have without getting into stuff that some dipshits would call conspiratorial which then invites all manner of other dipshits to come in and flinch and balk and deny.  Waking the walking dead just isnt on my bucket list and frankly, I understand "the problem" way better than any pro matriarchy or spiritual stooge could ever hope too.

Usually, I will resort to some nasty retort and log off. Instead Ill compromise here and admit that I can't adequately explain it in a few posts to undo what 60 years of propaganda has done to your two brain cells.

If you think the powers that be are going to accidentally lose or give their power away instead of harness it into tricking your ass into giving them more power then I dont know what to tell you.  Matriarchy, like patriarchy, is an asshole system created by assholes that no sentient can bare to live under regardless of gender.  Case closed.  Believe whatever nonsense you need too and leave us out of your guilt trip.
 

[Rafael Thundercat]

3 hours ago, Willy Phallicus said:

Yeah no shit.  Tell me something I dont know.

Its the patriarchy that gave you feminism which is moving its pet project called feminism into its conquest phase called matriarchy.

If the patriarchy didnt want feminism then you wouldn't have it.  

You somehow is rigth on your claims. Of course some woman co-opt patriarchy and consciously of unconsciously live and work to maintain it rolling, mainly women that directly benefit from it. For example many MAGA woman. See the woman around Trump, mostly white. They are shotting themself on the feet but they assume they gain a lot from it in short term. The Truth is that White Patriarchal Colonial Capitalism dont serve neither man neither woman in the healty sense of the word. Even feminists have internalized aspects of Patriarchy inside their psyche. 

Check this aspect for example 

https://www.instagram.com/p/DYcVib5gALM/?igsh=MW0za2h1eTlzbmIzbw==

The truth is that one dont dismantle a system using the same tools used to build it. One truly risk becaming a monster while trying to destroy a monster. Thats why is not easy. Most people feel in love for their shackes. Because serves short term survival. 

[Willy Phallicus]

4 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

One truly risk becaming a monster while trying to destroy a monster. Thats why is not easy.

I must give you kudos here because that is 100% correct.  But you're still not telling me anything I don't already know.

And yeah, it's immensely screwed up.  The power brokers do create these no win situations all the time:  Sauron builds himself a crazy ork army and unleashes it on the world.  Now there is no choice, you are obliged to defend yourself so all there is left for you to do is to establish a centrally commanded fascistic militarism because it is the only effective means that will afford you a fighting chance of fending off the dark lord and his fucking orks.

It's the rawest of raw deals - you have to create a monster in order to slay a demon - and the bankers are well aware of this dynamic and they wield it with a precision science - they game the system of human nature.  They use divide and conquer to do it and as you can see its working out really well.  Youre obviously convinced.
 

 

 

Edited 7 minutes ago by Willy Phallicus