Starving Patriarchy

[Rafael Thundercat]

As Explaning what Matriarchy or Matrilinearity is seems difficult here since there a big Male Bias on the Forum, I will drop this here with no explanation at all. Just watch and make your own self reflection.

When we are fish in the ocean we dont even question the ocean anymore. 

[Rafael Thundercat]

As a bonus study video watch this one where you can see some of the things the first video points towards. In this video here also take a look in a issue called " unpayed care work" because  we cant forget that for society to exist as it is there are woman taking care of kids. So is very strange that Rigth-Wing preach "Make more Babies" when at same time knowing that the capacity to care for those babies are extremely hard. And again  very suspicuos that Pedofile leaders are also pro woman having more kids. Maybe they fear having a lack of material for their pervertry. 

 

 

[Basman]

It's quiet libertarian to want to get paid for something that historically has always been a communal and interpersonal function. Raising babies that is.

Should we be paid for being law abiding as well? So much lost revenue and sex by following laws. I deserve to be compensated.

[Wilhelm44]

45 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

As Explaning what Matriarchy or Matrilinearity is seems difficult here since there a big Male Bias on the Forum, I will drop this here with no explanation at all. Just watch and make your own self reflection.

When we are fish in the ocean we dont even question the ocean anymore. 

This video makes sense, I am all for women being in their power. One thing that I couldn't find in the video though was a definition of matriarchy. What exactly do you mean when you use the word matriarchy ?

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

8 minutes ago, Basman said:

It's quiet libertarian to want to get paid for something that historically has always been a communal and interpersonal function. Raising babies that is.

Should we be paid for being law abiding as well? So much lost revenue and sex by following laws. I deserve to be compensated.

It'd be funny to pass a law which would grant all women a full paycheck per each children born, only for the birth rates to not improve at all, all on tax payer's expense. That'd be a double whammy right there. I hope that socwokies will get in power one day in any country, and attempt this

[Wilhelm44]

From what I can tell, this definition of matriarchy, is more just about egalitarianism.

[Rafael Thundercat]

1 hour ago, Basman said:

It's quiet libertarian to want to get paid for something that historically has always been a communal and interpersonal function. Raising babies that is.

Should we be paid for being law abiding as well? So much lost revenue and sex by following laws. I deserve to be compensated.

This is cheap commentary. You try to be funny, good but this miss the point of how the system depend from this unpaid work to sustain itself. There are deep research in this topic only. Do it if you care. 

[Rafael Thundercat]

1 hour ago, Wilhelm44 said:

This video makes sense, I am all for women being in their power. One thing that I couldn't find in the video though was a definition of matriarchy. What exactly do you mean when you use the word matriarchy ?

In this thread I dont aim to deal with Matriarchy. I was very clear that I had try this on other threads and in vain. So, here is to go the other way. To Expose the current System. 

[Rafael Thundercat]

44 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

From what I can tell, this definition of matriarchy, is more just about egalitarianism.

Thank you for this one. 

[Rafael Thundercat]

 

 

[Willy Phallicus]

2 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

One thing that I couldn't find in the video though was a definition of matriarchy. What exactly do you mean when you use the word matriarchy ?

It means turning the feminist movement into a war and push the agenda of liberation towards one of conquest and subjugation.  

[enchanted]

@Rafael Thundercatinteresting perspective! 

After all the YouTube videos comes the hard part: finding out what's actually true. 

Keep in mind that if everyone on the forum is so easily deluded, as you claim, then you could be too. No matter how many YouTube videos you watched. 

[Lila9]

2 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

 

 

Her videos are gold.

[Lila9]

“Women are conditioned to be the shock absorbers in patriarchy”

Exactly. Patriarchy is built on our emotional and physical labor.

Withdrawal is the smartest thing, energy, safety, and time-wise.

The more women opt out of doing free, unpaid labor, the faster patriarchy will collapse, until society, as a collective, understands that care labor is the most important and valuable labor on which society should be centered, rather than on dead materials and possessions.

[Lila9]

3 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

From what I can tell, this definition of matriarchy, is more just about egalitarianism.

She is the real deal.

Here is her Substack article debunking misunderstandings about matriarchy:

https://lettersfromayoungmatriarch.substack.com/p/its-not-women-rule

[Basman]

5 hours ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

It'd be funny to pass a law which would grant all women a full paycheck per each children born, only for the birth rates to not improve at all, all on tax payer's expense. That'd be a double whammy right there. I hope that socwokies will get in power one day in any country, and attempt this

It already exists to a certain degree in Northern-European countries. Women get benefits for raising children in addition to all the free social amenities like school, but it doesn't do much to make people actually have kids (while also being really expensive). The entire sociological environment is antithetical to breeding. Just throwing money at the issue won't solve it. Trying to solve social issues with just money is thinking inside the box. It does make for a good catchphrase in a informational consumerist kind of way though.

It's probably a global force that is indicative of our moment in history.

Edited 50 minutes ago by Basman

[Basman]

1 hour ago, Lila9 said:

The more women opt out of doing free, unpaid labor, the faster patriarchy will collapse, until society, as a collective, understands that care labor is the most important and valuable labor on which society should be centered, rather than on dead materials and possessions.

If your only having kids because your paid, do you actually want them?

Not to say we shouldn't have benefits, but put in a historical context, such benefits would really be compensating for the breaking of communal bonds. It's a modern phenomenon that child rearing is so individualistic. Like having to pay out of the nose for day care is a complete skill issue and super indicative.

Feminists also need to realize that women are biologically adapted for raising kids in ways that men aren't, besides being the one's who do all the birthing. Men and women aren't equal on that front, so it's not uniquely unfair that women carry a greater burden in that regard. It would be more unrealistic to expect something that exceeds biological reality.

[Rafael Thundercat]

3 hours ago, Willy Phallicus said:

It means turning the feminist movement into a war and push the agenda of liberation towards one of conquest and subjugation.  

This move would be a Patriarchal move. 

[Lila9]

17 minutes ago, Basman said:

If your only having kids because your paid, do you actually want them?

Not to say we shouldn't have benefits, but put in a historical context, such benefits would really be compensating for the breaking of communal bonds. It's a modern phenomenon that child rearing is so individualistic. Like having to pay out of the nose for day care is a complete skill issue and super indicative.

Feminists also need to realize that women are biologically adapted for raising kids in ways that men aren't, besides being the one's who do all the birthing. Men and women aren't equal on that front, so it's not uniquely unfair that women carry a greater burden in that regard. It would be more unrealistic to expect something that exceeds biological reality.

First of all, no one should have kids only because they receive benefits for it.

Society needs to be reconstructed in a way that, first of all, the basic needs of all humans are met and are protected by law, such as food, shelter, healthcare, education, and being in a community.

The space also needs to be constructed in such a way that it is friendly for communities to gather, walk, and exist. Unlike the modern structure of many cities, which is built for cars and consumption.

This is not science fiction and is technically possible to do.

Secondly, society shouldn't push anyone to be a parent, especially not women.

For thousands of years, motherhood and marriage have been tied to womanhood and worth. There shouldn't be social pressure on women to have a partner or give birth.

But if someone wants to be a parent, they should receive the help they need from the government and the community: basic education, shelter, food, and basic needs for their children.

The idea that children are individual possessions is a patriarchal idea.

Children belong to everybody, and society is responsible for providing for children so that they grow up and become good adults who contribute to and move society forward.

Patriarchal people need to realize that while there are some biological differences between men and women and gender roles can help with order, they are not fixed, and both sexes can and historically have done both roles.

People are more complex and nuanced than the black-and-white version of patriarchy.