Sweden Has Banned the Concept of Islamophobia

[Monster Energy]

My homeland…

 

[enchanted]

Sam Harris, says the same thing because while Jesus taught peace, Mohamed was a military leader and a statesmen,  who took slaves, multiple wives (some were children) beheaded people, etc. So Muslims countries have better justifications for merging church and state and to spread their religion. Judaism for example makes it very hard to join and that's why there is relatively so few Jews in the world. 

I thought this was an interesting distinction between these major religions of the world that might indeed help explain some of the actions of the followers. 

Edited 8 hours ago by enchanted

[Schahin]

5 hours ago, enchanted said:

Sam Harris, says the same thing because while Jesus taught peace, Mohamed was a military leader and a statesmen,  who took slaves, multiple wives (some were children) beheaded people, etc. So Muslims countries have better justifications for merging church and state and to spread their religion. Judaism for example makes it very hard to join and that's why there is relatively so few Jews in the world. 

I thought this was an interesting distinction between these major religions of the world that might indeed help explain some of the actions of the followers. 

Actually while Christianity and the New Testament and especially the OT encourage slavery, Islam is the first religion that abandons it.

Slavery was a very common barbaric practice and the Quran clearly abolished it and says its an entry to heaven to free your slaves. Being a military leader and killing people was not because Mohammed was a bloodthirst person, but because the first Muslims got heavily and barbarically persecuted by the pagans who worshipped statues as God and refused the concept of God as the eternal, and infinite oneness of existence.

They saw the practices of their forefathers in danger which brought them heavy financial benefits through selling Idolatry like statues and pictures. 

It was a time where people were utmost barbarics, killed each other for tribal dominance, blinded each other  taking their eyes out and enslaved their enemies.

Mohammed had no other option than to lead wars not because of fun but because of desperate persecution. You can not deal with those types of people by cuddling them. It would be better to study Islam and its historic context rather than cherrypicking certain verses without knowing their context

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[oldhandle]

1 hour ago, Schahin said:

Actually while Christianity and the New Testament and especially the OT encourage slavery, Islam is the first religion that abandons it.

Slavery was a very common barbaric practice and the Quran clearly abolished it and says its an entry to heaven to free your slaves. Being a military leader and killing people was not because Mohammed was a bloodthirst person, but because the first Muslims got heavily and barbarically persecuted by the pagans who worshipped statues as God and refused the concept of God as the eternal, and infinite oneness of existence.

They saw the practices of their forefathers in danger which brought them heavy financial benefits through selling Idolatry like statues and pictures. 

It was a time where people were utmost barbarics, killed each other for tribal dominance, blinded each other  taking their eyes out and enslaved their enemies.

Mohammed had no other option than to lead wars not because of fun but because of desperate persecution. You can not deal with those types of people by cuddling them. It would be better to study Islam and its historic context rather than cherrypicking certain verses without knowing their context

Can you explain how Mohammed married a 6 year old and had sex with her at 9 and how that is used to justify child marriage to this day?

[enchanted]

2 hours ago, Schahin said:

Actually while Christianity and the New Testament and especially the OT encourage slavery, Islam is the first religion that abandons it.

Slavery was a very common barbaric practice and the Quran clearly abolished it and says its an entry to heaven to free your slaves. Being a military leader and killing people was not because Mohammed was a bloodthirst person, but because the first Muslims got heavily and barbarically persecuted by the pagans who worshipped statues as God and refused the concept of God as the eternal, and infinite oneness of existence.

They saw the practices of their forefathers in danger which brought them heavy financial benefits through selling Idolatry like statues and pictures. 

It was a time where people were utmost barbarics, killed each other for tribal dominance, blinded each other  taking their eyes out and enslaved their enemies.

Mohammed had no other option than to lead wars not because of fun but because of desperate persecution. You can not deal with those types of people by cuddling them. It would be better to study Islam and its historic context rather than cherrypicking certain verses without knowing their context

Muslim countries abolished slavery much more recently than Christian countries. 

Early Christians were also prosecuted and lived in barbaric times. Mohamed could have practiced non-resistance like Jesus and Ghandi and just accepted death/martyrdom like what Jesus did. 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by enchanted

[Monster Energy]

It’s so funny that Christians and Muslims argue about whose storybook is better,

“MY FAIRY TALE IS BETTER. NO, MY FAIRY TALE IS BETTER!!!”

I kindly ask you both to go to hell 

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Monster Energy

[Basman]

There's a fundamental difference between Muslims and westerners in how religion is treated as an institution. That difference is a big part of the xenophobia towards Muslims, and something that should have been taking into consideration when enacting all them migration policies. 

 

[Basman]

https://en.abna24.com/news/1808183/Sweden-Drops-Use-of-the-Term-Islamophobia

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Maria Malmer Stenergard, Sweden's Minister for Foreign Affairs, announced before parliamentary representatives that the government will no longer use the term "Islamophobia." She described the concept as "problematic," because, according to her, "it focuses on individuals' irrational fears."

Stenergard emphasized that the Swedish government will also seek to replace the term with "anti-Muslim racism" or "anti-Muslim hatred" in international bodies, including the European Union and the United Nations. Discussions on this matter are set to continue during the third week of May in Brussels.

The decision has been welcomed by the right-wing Sweden Democrats party. Charlie Weimers, a member of the European Parliament for the party, said, "Islamists have exploited the term Islamophobia to advance their agenda and secure EU funding." He described the government's action as "finally scrapping a fabricated concept."

Faw Azzat, Secretary General of the Global Alliance for Peace and Justice (GAPF) in Sweden, also praised the decision, stating that the term Islamophobia was "coined by Islamists themselves to equate criticism of a religion with racism against people—a semantic trick dressed up as anti-racism."

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[Schahin]

2 hours ago, oldhandle said:

Can you explain how Mohammed married a 6 year old and had sex with her at 9 and how that is used to justify child marriage to this day?

 

If you observe everything from your first World lense, from your comfortable housing it wont make sense to you.

Back then Child labour and Marriage was common for survival, and how do you know they had sex? Were you in their private chambers?

Many countries  even today in Africa and the Middle East, where Child labour is quite a common practice, children are adults much faster than in the West and they rely totally on themselves and dont have a typical childhood. 

 

And because of constant tribal warfare they were mostly orphans back then and therefore were completely lost and abused by other people. The Quran mentions that alot, how people take advantage of the orphans and try to abuse them and how that is a direct ticket into hell.

So marriage was for survival and it was pretty common not only there but everywhere and nobody on earth will ever be able to confirm to you, if they had sex or not other than those that witnessed it, and I suppose you dont have their Whatsapp contacts, so lets not speculate, it would be better to analyze what the Quran is talking about justice, abandoning slavery and compassion, Just read the 99 names of God in Islam and tell me how that is not something we directly experience through psychedelics?

Mohammed didnt want to be worshipped as a God, he was a prophet a normal human being, with all the flaws one can have, his flaws are sufficiently mentioned in the Quran

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[Schahin]

1 hour ago, enchanted said:

Muslim countries abolished slavery much more recently than Christian countries. 

Early Christians were also prosecuted and lived in barbaric times. Mohamed could have practiced non-resistance like Jesus and Ghandi and just accepted death/martyrdom like what Jesus did. 

 

 

That presupposes that Muslim countries enact Islam in its just and compassionate way, which they dont. Most mulsim countries are corrupt and blinded by money, especially the Gulf States.

Islam very specifically condemns accumulating money and wealth over and over again, emphasizing on the importande to donate your money to orphans and to the poor and not accumulating it, as there is no material value in this world worth pursueing.

The Quran very explicitly abandons Slavery over and over again, just ask ChatGPT, youll get your answers. What so called "mulsim" countries do is a totally different hypocritical form of Islam

[Schahin]

@enchanted

Well he could have yes, he could have been tortured in some nasty dungeons for the rest of his life without seeing the sunlight and then be crucified upside down like some of the christian Apostles.

But would you have done that? I wouldnt and I find it pretty horrible and would never encourage anbody to do so. Not even mentioning that Jesus and the Apostles went that way and it wasnt really effective until 2000 years later

Nobody is obliged to undergo that kind of terror for the rest of his life and Islam was partially quite successfull in abandoning idolatry, corruption, Greed, tribal warfare, Orphan abuse and hypocrisy and for those times in the past it was absolutely correct for the Islam to emerge as a divine revelation.

It doesnt always fit into our times of today, but that's because of the cherrypicking certain verses without the historical context and using it in a fanatical way. The true Islam is the Islam of the Sufis (for example Ibn Arabi the great mystic)

Edited 19 minutes ago by Schahin

[Schahin]

@Monster Energy

You obviously dont get it. Its not about my book is better than yours. 

It's about blatant hatred towards 1 billion people that live on this earth and in your face insultations towards these people. 

What do you think all these emergent right wing parties in Europe have in common? They hate 1 billion inhabitans of this earth due to their religion, the most hardcore example of that are the Iraq War and the Genocide currently occuring with the Palestinians.

Why does Europe support the mass murder and massacre of innocent Muslim Civilians who cannot even escape their misery and are 80% homeless? Because of exactly that shameless hatred towards them, dont be complicit in it.

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[Monster Energy]

18 minutes ago, Schahin said:

don't be complicit in it.

I am doing it, and I will always do so. You refuse to live alone with your shitty culture, so that is why I have to support this. A virus must be destroyed for relief to come.