Drama Alert! Another YTber is calling us a cult! 😈☦️

[Carl-Richard]

7 hours ago, Osaid said:

Leo's cult psychology video is actually good.

It's based seemingly entirely on the anti-cult movement, an outrage and money-making machine. Go to literally any other source, academic ones. Most of them will take a huge dump on the anti-cult movement (and the cult concept itself) and use terms like "new religious movement".

It's a farce considering his purported status as epistemic God numero uno that he doesn't make clear the underlying assumptions of his chosen view or present alternative views. That's epistemology 101.

It would've been yet more evidence of ulterior motives / motivated reasoning if it weren't for the fact that it's actually fairly common for Leo and not limited to these series of videos. I'm trying to limit my cynicism here but it makes you want to ask more questions.

Nevertheless, it underlies the one-sided engagement with the issue by his followers, and that anything else would be a result of self-education or other education.

Edited 3 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Osaid]

44 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Go to literally any other source, academic ones.

Isn't that what the Google AI result is parsing from? Quite a few sources seem to cite the need for authoritarian tactics and hierarchies. After doing a deeper dive, it seems it's a point of contention for scholars and not all of them agree with that, but some do. IMO that's the only useful or practical definition, though. That being said, it seems like the definition is not as objective as the video made it out to be.

44 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Nevertheless, it underlies the one-sided engagement with the issue by his followers, and that anything else would be a result of self-education or other education.

I don't think the cult video is doing him any favors, though. I'm the only one who even seems to be bringing up the more specific criteria. 

What seems to happen is that Leo will make a video on epistemology and everyone will think that means he's immune to bad epistemology. This goes for anything he covers. He makes a video on cults, so that means he can't be susceptible to making one. This kind of logic. There is this prevalent idea that he has conquered or perfected all the topics he has covered, probably because of the "I'm the most conscious of all time" rhetoric or the "I'm the number one on epistemology" rhetoric he spews all the time. Which is pretty ironic, but yeah. There is this kind of sidestepping going on that derails from Leo's behaviours and instead tries to point at how generous and considerate he is for keeping this thread open and stuff like that lol. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Osaid

[Joseph Maynor]

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