Russell Brand In Hot Water

[Leo Gura]

I don't see this as a con.

People change. Like Elon Musk changed hard after Covid. So did Rogan.

People can backslide. That's not a con.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Mellowmarsh]

1 minute ago, Willy Phallicus said:

True but that doesn't mean they should deny how cheaply and easily they were conned.

Well you can’t con a con.

[Willy Phallicus]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't see this as a con.

People change. Like Elon Musk changed hard after Covid. So did Rogan.

People can backslide. That's not a con.

I guess there's a huge world of difference between being a "world class bullshit artist" and a conman.

He's a public figure/talking head that has made a living peddling agendas and narratives (with lots of ads for you to buy stuff) which have coincidentally paid him extremely well.  The guys had his grift on for years.  Maybe he's not a conman in the strictest sense of the word but come on.  He was selling people what they wanted to hear and they bought it and repackaged it - all while having some very naughty skeletons in his closet.

The mea culpa is a little late for me but people are free to make up their own minds.

[Leo Gura]

14 minutes ago, Willy Phallicus said:

I guess there's a huge world of difference between being a "world class bullshit artist" and a conman.

There certainly is.

Bullshitting is not con artistry.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Willy Phallicus]

Yeah I guess you're right.  The guy wasn't selling fake rolex's out of a trench coat at the train station, he was just selling a version of himself that didn't exist.