Which Button Are You Pressing?

[Carl-Richard]

52 minutes ago, vinc3nc said:

"If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives."

Just reading this sentence makes you realize that a lot of ppl would press the blue button because of this, not realizing what it actually means. they would be too quick to judge and just press the blue button (along with children etc). and the rest (maybe only 20-30% of the remaining people) just to need to realize what I just said here to make the right choice (pressing blue) in order for nobody to die (to make it 50%+).

That's what I'm saying. They are retarded. They are not able to think. So you would maybe take that into consideration.

 

57 minutes ago, vinc3nc said:

so the way something is written or said is very, very important in these kinds of experiments. imagine it if was said like this: "If every1 presses the red button, nobody dies, if less than 50% press the blue button, every1 who pressed the blue button dies" or something like that. then you're fucked if you try to push the blue button just to help those who made a mistake survive, because you wouldn't have enough support from others.

Yep, again, people have poor reading comprehension, we know that.

 

58 minutes ago, vinc3nc said:

 

Notice again that I never said you should pick any button. I said this is a scenario that would happen if everybody is rational and not retarded. They are not, which is what I continued to explain afterwards.

You had an emotional reaction to me merely entertaining as a hypothetical that pushing the red button could be the most rational thing given a certain scenario, and now you assume I want to push the red button. That's again not true, I said I don't know what I would push given the real situation.

[vinc3nc]

People who don't want to pick, or don't know what they would pick = red button

[Osaid]

Eeny, meeny, miny, moe

[Carl-Richard]

9 minutes ago, vinc3nc said:

People who don't want to pick, or don't know what they would pick = red button

You know, it's one thing to have a discussion about something with an open mind and coming from a place of curiosity and trying to approach a difficult question and it's another to be emotional and trigger-happy and shaming people for opinions they don't even hold.

If you think you can accurately assess what you would do in a situation where there is a literal gun pointed to your head just by thinking about it, then sure, believe that all you want, but I don't think that is how psychology works.

[Osaid]

Strange loop morality: The "right" decision only exists because of the "wrong" decision.

Look at how conscious and superior the imaginary hypothetical plebeians make me. 🤯

[vinc3nc]

22 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

You know, it's one thing to have a discussion about something with an open mind and coming from a place of curiosity and trying to approach a difficult question and it's another to be emotional and trigger-happy and shaming people for opinions they don't even hold.

If you think you can accurately assess what you would do in a situation where there is a literal gun pointed to your head just by thinking about it, then sure, believe that all you want, but I don't think that is how psychology works.

Yeah, we should all have a third option to choose: “I don’t know, because it’s unrealistic to think about it without having a real stake in it.” That way, we can avoid making decisions when we’re not certain enough to do so, and then accomplish.... what exactly?

maybe you mentioning the gun is the problem here? maybe if you were put to sleep w/o pain, in bliss, then you could decide easily.