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3 months of cold approach - do I keep going or nah?

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I've noticed my social skills have gotten a lot better through it all and I was able to attract enough women which gave me a nice confidence boost, made out with a girl while at a club as well.

Other than that though, no numbers or dates.

Thing is, I'm honestly not enjoying it at this point.  Was in a bar earlier and something in me just went "nah, this isn't me".  I'd rather just go back to regular meetups and using an app or two.

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How can you go out for 3 months and not get at least 25 numbers?

You are doing something wrong.

Learn to do it properly.

Edited by Leo Gura

You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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If I'm being honest it's just turning into a grind.  You said it yourself not to let it become a grind, so *shrug*

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1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

How can you go out for 3 months and not get at least 25 numbers?

Learn to do it properly.

Guess I fucked up. Got no numbers from night game. 200 rejections though.

Day game appears to be far superior for me.  Yet that is hypothesis at this point, still have yet to have any success with it. I've had way too little courage in approaching, and even been discouraged by "friends."  

My social skills DID get better though. I am seen as a super-extrovert by some other people, at my ability to talk and be self-entertaining. Still working on how to flirt, half OK at teasing, which appears to be a good way to screen for interest/compliance.  

(I've gotten 3 numbers this year, and all of them flaked from going for a coffee. An only really approached less than a dozen women, so yeah, it's sad. Mega Rookie numbers.) 

I have a goal for myself to be able to speak to anyone and be able to talk about anything. I haven't quite cultivated that will yet. But it would be so cool to be able to just be a serial socializer. Honestly, that's more impressive than anything, more freeing than anything, a more inspiring goal than anything. (Even though there's that deep desire to just be loved.)

Today, when I see a girl that is a potential match (I am attracted to, shorter than me), I get a strong body feeling in my chest of fear or something. It's very real, very strong, and makes it even harder to approach that girl than just some random dude. 

I find myself not having the courage to burn the set to the ground (keep on talking, flirt, make the ask for the date). 
I want to change that. I don't want to be in fear no more. 


I see the light of God within you.

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2 hours ago, enzyme said:

I've noticed my social skills have gotten a lot better through it all and I was able to attract enough women which gave me a nice confidence boost, made out with a girl while at a club as well.

Other than that though, no numbers or dates.

Thing is, I'm honestly not enjoying it at this point.  Was in a bar earlier and something in me just went "nah, this isn't me".  I'd rather just go back to regular meetups and using an app or two.

What's your strategy when talking to girls?


There is no failure, only feedback

One small step at a time. No one climbs a mountain in one go.

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@enzyme

Of course you're not enjoying it. You haven't gotten any real results.

Unless you are doing way better at meetups / apps, I would keep going until you get some actual dates.

Then decide if it's still not worth it. 


"Finding your reason can be so deceiving, a subliminal place. 

I will not break, 'cause I've been riding the curves of these infinity words and so I'll be on my way. I will not stay.

 And it goes On and On, On and On"

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4 hours ago, enzyme said:

If I'm being honest it's just turning into a grind.  You said it yourself not to let it become a grind, so *shrug*

You quit too easily. With that attitude you won't succeed at anything worthwhile.

If it's a grind, find a way to make it more fun.

You can't expect to get sex with no work.

Edited by Leo Gura

You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You quit too easily. With that attitude you won't succeed at anything worthwhile.

I maybe should've mentioned this prior but I hadn't been using social circle nor apps before trying cold approach.  You can have your own opinion about dating apps being a bad market, and I'd agree with you, but I'm still choosing to use them,  So I'm not quitting anything.

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

If it's a grind, find a way to make it more fun.

The only way I can see myself having fun in these situations would either be in a group or with a close friend (like in a bar or club environment).  I gave all that a shot solo and it's just exhausting at this rate.  Social circle would honestly be better for this.

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You can't expect to get sex with no work.

Dude, I leave my house and travel an hour and back three days a week to do this.  My feet fucking ache from all the walking around.  Maybe I'm not that suave during conversation or whatever and I forget to close for a number but don't tell me I'm not putting serious work in.

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