Solipsism is false

[TruthFreedom]

If you use your mind, you realise you are just one of 8 billion human minds on this planet. It is a form of enlightenment when you realise how small and insignificant you are. Makes me laugh sometimes when I have that realisation.

[Joseph Maynor]

8 minutes ago, TruthFreedom said:

If you use your mind, you realise you are just one of 8 billion human minds on this planet. It is a form of enlightenment when you realise how small and insignificant you are. Makes me laugh sometimes when I have that realisation.

This is all abstract shit. 

[TruthFreedom]

6 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

This is all abstract shit. 

Not really. It's logical. Just because Leo has a problem with rationality, doesn't mean we have to.

[Joseph Maynor]

2 minutes ago, TruthFreedom said:

Not really. It's logical. Just because Leo has a problem with rationality, doesn't mean we have to.

What I mean is you're focused outward.   I'm not concerned with what Leo is doing.  

[TruthFreedom]

Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

What I mean is you're focused outward.   I'm not concerned with what Leo is doing.  

Yes I'm focused outwards. This is very important to avoid becoming self-absorbed.

Inner work can become narcissistic. That's why I'm focusing outwards now.

[Joseph Maynor]

2 minutes ago, TruthFreedom said:

Yes I'm focused outwards. This is very important to avoid becoming self-absorbed.

Inner work can become narcissistic. That's why I'm focusing outwards now.

So what makes it narcissistic?

[TruthFreedom]

Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

So what makes it narcissistic?

I've not gathered if you are a solipsism advocate...

But I think it could be wise to go with the crowd in this belief, and realise the benefit of seeing solipsism as having a negative connotation.

[Joseph Maynor]

2 minutes ago, TruthFreedom said:

I've not gathered if you are a solipsism advocate...

But I think it could be wise to go with the crowd in this belief, and realise the benefit of seeing solipsism as having a negative connotation.

I think a lot of what is happening online is fake.  Nobody knows who these people are.  You never met any of these people in real life.  

Edited 12 hours ago by Joseph Maynor

[Willy Phallicus]

1 hour ago, TruthFreedom said:

But I think it could be wise to go with the crowd in this belief

The wise thing to do would be to test the theory and find out for yourself whether they're full of shit or not. 

[TruthFreedom]

3 hours ago, Willy Phallicus said:

The wise thing to do would be to test the theory and find out for yourself whether they're full of shit or not. 

I have tested the theory and it's not real. I never believed I was the only thing in existence even when I was a baby, 

What makes sense is using logic.

If someone comes along and punches you in the face, then that would definitely prove they existed, right?

Solipsism has a negative connotation for a reason.

[TruthFreedom]

@Joseph Maynor true. 

 

[Mellowmarsh]

7 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I think a lot of what is happening online is fake.  Nobody knows who these people are.  You never met any of these people in real life.  

Say you did meet these people in real life. They would still be fake, in real life you’re still not able to meet someone else because they are not external to you, they are objects looked upon. When not looked upon they don’t exist for you, except as an idea which is not external to you either.

[Joseph Maynor]

7 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Say you did meet these people in real life. They would still be fake, in real life you’re still not able to meet someone else because they are not external to you, they are objects looked upon. When not looked upon they don’t exist for you, except as an idea which is not external to you either.

Come on.  This is ridiculous.  

[Mellowmarsh]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Come on.  This is ridiculous.  

You can never prove another person is conscious who exists independently separate from you. You can only be certain you exist, you invent others, otherwise they don’t exist. 

This is blindly obvious. 

[Joseph Maynor]

8 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

You can never prove another person is conscious who exists independently separate from you. You can only be certain you exist, you invent others, otherwise they don’t exist. 

This is blindly obvious. 

I can by meeting them in person.  

[Ry4n]

Solipsism is True.

Jks aside tho there’s no reason to believe existence must be infinite; it could be finite and limited that’s also possible. Maybe what we think is so large and much isn’t actually that much at all, maybe we just think it is cos we’re dumb monkeys. 

[Mellowmarsh]

11 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I can by meeting them in person.  

You have never met another person in real life in your entire life.

Life is an endless process in constant flux, never a fixed solid entity.

Another person is a pattern of thought, sensation and memory constantly changing. You are literally nothing, but you are not purely absence,  you are this infinite openness space. A space without imposed definition.

Zoom in far enough, or zoom out far enough to see the real you, all will be revealed to be nothing other that infinite space.

[Joseph Maynor]

Just now, Mellowmarsh said:

You have never met another person in real life in your entire life.

Life is an endless process in constant flux, never a fixed solid entity.

Another person is a pattern of thought, sensation and memory constantly changing. You are literally nothing, but you are not purely absence,  you are this infinite openness space. A space without imposed definition.

Zoom in far enough, or zoom out far enough to see the real you, all will be revealed to be nothing other that infinite space.

Okaay?  

[Ry4n]

There is nothing and everything and something and then everything back into nothing then it became and now is.

 

[Mellowmarsh]

Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

Okaay?  

And by the way, you have no face either, you are totally faceless.

The image you believe is your face is an avatar, it’s a fake representation, it’s an image of the imageless.

The face is your mirror. The mirror is Emptiness reflecting only itself. Close your eyes and the image is gone.