Mellowmarsh

So what exactly is God?

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So you wouldnt call it God?

But now you would?

 

how about I make the executive decision, we will label it as:

God/Reality/Universe/Totality/Infinity

Out of convenience of communication.

Edited by No1Here2c

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We will ensure to remember that this is just a label.

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We will utilize this label to point toward the same deep underlying nature which unifies us both, in this conscious field surrounding us.

Edited by No1Here2c

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Or you could go off on your own labeling it a bag of shit and a rotten tomatoes if you want.

Oh im sorry tomatoes not tomatoes.

Edited by No1Here2c

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Call it comatose if you wish I dont care.

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Whatever we call it, we both know its down there.

Edited by No1Here2c
Am I subtlety deceiving myself?

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@Breakingthewall

Now its your turn,

I'll be the blank slate. 

What the hell is God?

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3 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

What the hell is God?

God is no control, no will, no choice, no knowing. Then it's not god, it's just the dance of creation and destruction, the eternal movement, but over all, the total openess that is, the unlimited, exactly you. 

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5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

God is no control, no will, no choice, no knowing. Then it's not god, it's just the dance of creation and destruction, the eternal movement, but over all, the total openess that is, the unlimited, exactly you. 

How to recognize the indistinction between god, & the dance of creation?

They are not separate as you may initially imagine them to be.

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9 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Here is where all the wannabe Leo Guras Meet to spill BS. 

Exactly right. We purge it out so later we may see without the runway streak.

I suppose you could call it a skid mark.

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Just know if you dont get the shit out now, it'll be a mess to clean up once you finally do get a hit of this.

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1 hour ago, No1Here2c said:

Let's assume so.

The math does math here

Can you prove the universe not be conscious?

What does it mean to be conscious?

Here are words, actively read, & actively understood.

All reality is resultant of consciousness. All experience is direct. Only as active awareness may experience illuminate.

Including (first & foremost) this experience right here!

All of its wrinkles, be them perceptual, or cognitive layers, is still exactly as reality is in this moment.

Reality, as presented through any of its myriad filters, remains as reality.

Reality contains all questions.

May a question contain reality?

There would be no direct experience of anything, including these words here, if the universe/god were not conscious.

To be conscious is to be a center of awareness. The universe is a collection of multiple centers of awareness. The universe isn’t conscious. We are. 

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2 minutes ago, Cornelia Watford said:

To be conscious is to be a center of awareness. The universe is a collection of multiple centers of awareness. The universe isn’t conscious. We are. 

A center of awareness?

Prove to me that awareness has a center.

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Seems like a lot of god people don't really believe in the infinite or miracles.  There's a weird irony to acknowledging an Omnipotent Omniscience and then don't give it much credit - or not nearly enough.

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36 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

A center of awareness?

Prove to me that awareness has a center.

You already know yourself as a center of awareness. That’s the one thing I don’t need to prove to you. The center is the active experience. You are the observer at the center.

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8 minutes ago, Willy Phallicus said:

Seems like a lot of god people don't really believe in the infinite or miracles.  There's a weird irony to acknowledging an Omnipotent Omniscience and then don't give it much credit - or not nearly enough.

There is a conflict between God, and the ego desperately trying to make sense of it.

God is all elusive.

The mind refuses to accept that which cannot be put into a logical box.

It may partially grasp something & have other bits completely yet unearthed.

Whatever structured the mind holds for sense making of reality, is the structure that reality is interpreted & presented within.

This will cause blindspots, corruption, misunderstanding, and more challenges to arise...

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6 minutes ago, Cornelia Watford said:

You already know yourself as a center of awareness. That’s the one thing I don’t need to prove to you. The center is the active experience. You are the observer at the center.

I know myself I ego identity to be the center around which all revolves. Ego loves to claim that awareness is possessed, directed, & operated via the ego.

Awareness itself lies beyond all ideas of separate awareness,

Consciousness knows itself to have zero center.

it lies even outside of need for attachment to a physical vessel.

The concept of a center is already a gross abstraction of the human mind.

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5 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

I know myself I ego identity to be the center around which all revolves. Ego loves to claim that awareness is possessed, directed, & operated via the ego.

Awareness itself lies beyond all ideas of separate awareness,

Consciousness knows itself to have zero center.

it lies even outside of need for attachment to a physical vessel.

The concept of a center is already a gross abstraction of the human mind.

Reality isn’t a riddle. You know you’re a center of awareness. It’s self evident. You are the experiencer of the experience. Ego is an emergent construct used to interact. But the center itself is simply the awareness of anything at all. The only thing I could possibly need to prove to you is that I’m not an extension of you. And that’s inevitable given enough time.

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22 minutes ago, Cornelia Watford said:

You are the experiencer of the experience.

Yes. But what is that?

Is the experiencer a body?

Is the experiencer a brain?

We would say rather that the experiencer is what experiences those things. The experiencer makes the body and the brain real in the awareness of them.

A body and brain are centralized.

The experiencer is not centralized in any way. It is free flowing. It is all encompassing.

Ego distortion creates the sense of a center.

Ultimately, the uncentralized observer imagines itself to have a center. Awareness currently imagines even just the idea of centers existing.

Now imagine a universe which had no decernable center. Centers are simply not possible in this universe.

What would that appear as?

22 minutes ago, Cornelia Watford said:

Reality isn’t a riddle.

You know you’re a center of awareness. It’s self evident.

the center itself is simply the awareness of anything at all. The only thing I need to prove to you is that I’m not an extension of you.

How can we be sure that reality is not a riddle?

I am aware that I am aware.

I am aware of colors, I am aware of sounds.

I am not directly aware of a definitive point inside of the human from which all of it emanates.

In attempts to prove that you are separate & distinct from this conscious awareness, you are hooking yourself with a barb, deeper & deeper into the presently apparent conscious experience, which is apparently unified & Inseparable.

It would take some true mindfuckery for you to be sitting in another plane entirely yet somehow be interacting with mine.

And in even so saying the previous I am imagining a subtlety gross distinction.

Edited by No1Here2c

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