TransSports ~ LEO Gura Deconstruction

[Pineal]

Leo you are doing something specific here that really contradicts alot of your own framework. A major body of work you have is built on distinguishing between form and essence and the idea that surface level appearances are not the same as underlying reality. And then proceed to applying the opposite logic to gender, treating the biological form as the definitive reality and dismissing the inner experience as ego confusion. Not every Trans thinks they are a woman. I don't. I can tell I was born a man. I do it for the feeling produced by estrogen and progesterone(stopped bicalutamide)and a multitude of other factors too much to get into. I am very high-consciousness with my analysis of myself(try to be). We all take chemicals for self care or even to "be happy".

The dog analogy is particularly weak. A dog also does not do kriya yoga, practice fire kasina, map its own neuropharmacology, or pursue enlightenment. The argument that animals do not struggle with self-image is not evidence that human self-image concerns are invalid and it is evidence that humans are categorically different from animals in ways you yourself have built an entire career arguing.

The deeper contradiction is this. I have Hashimoto's thyroiditis (you as well?). My thyroid has been producing insufficient active hormone for years. Insufficient T3 affects mood, cognition, sense of self, emotional regulation, and psychological stability in documented and measurable ways. I also have narcolepsy type 1 which is a condition where my brain's primary arousal and identity-anchoring neurotransmitter system was destroyed by my own immune system. I took hormones and felt more myself. By your logic that is ego. By basic endocrinology that is my body finally having the chemical substrate it needed to function.

I rationalized nothing(well I did to a certain extent). I ran the data and followed it to the correct conclusion. Like you do with everything else.

Leo keep the framework. I'll keep the results.  His chemicals are consciousness work. Yours are corruption of stage Green.

 

As a man everyone calls me Kravitz. I'm attractive. I can look like an alien and be hot. Or a crocodile 😭😂

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Proof: Trans Sports Debate Is About Discomfort With Trans Women, Not Fairness. Okay?

 

Premise 1: If the debate is about competitive fairness, the same scrutiny must apply in both directions of transition. Lol.

 

Premise 2: FTM athletes on testosterone therapy competing in women's categories have elevated testosterone compared to cisgender women, producing measurable advantages in muscle mass, power output, and red blood cell production. Standard testosterone therapy produces levels of 400-700 ng/dL. Cisgender women's natural range is 15-70 ng/dL. That is a documented 10x advantage over competitors in the same category.

 

Premise 3: The policy debate generates near-zero urgency about FTM athletes in women's categories despite the documented advantage in Premise 2.

 

Premise 4: The same debate generates significant urgency about MTF athletes in women's categories.

 

Premise 5: The rebuttal "FTM athletes don't dominate men's sports" assumes FTM athletes compete against men, which is not universally true and is not the relevant comparison. The relevant comparison is FTM athletes versus cisgender women in the same category. When a FTM athlete stays in women's sports, the 10x testosterone advantage documented in Premise 2 applies directly to her competitors. The magnitude asymmetry argument collapses entirely when the correct comparison is made.

 

Premise 6: The regulation assumption is that FTM testosterone is controlled and monitored and is not supported by data. The majority of trans people self-administer hormones outside clinical supervision with no monitoring, testing, or dose standardization. Sports testing only monitors athletes institutions are already watching. Institutions are watching trans women. Testosterone levels at the exact moment of competition cannot be assumed without testing at that exact moment.

 

Conclusion: If the debate were about fairness, Premises 2, 3, 5, and 6 would generate equal urgency to Premise 4. They do not. Therefore the debate is not primarily about fairness.

 

Corollary: The asymmetry is explained by a single variable of discomfort specifically with trans women winning. Remove that variable and the policy logic collapses.

 

Stay with me here.lolll🤣

 

There are no cisgender men competing in women's categories. The premise of "men invading women's sports" has never described a real population. It describes a conflation.

 

The argument exists because the debate conflates trans women with cisgender men. This is the transphobia embedded in the policy logic. It treats trans women as men in disguise rather than as a distinct population with a specific hormonal and physiological profile that varies by transition timeline, hormone levels, and individual response. A trans woman five years post-transition on estrogen is not physiologically equivalent to a cisgender man. Treating them as identical is not biology. It is bias.

 

The real question gets buried under "men are invading women's sports." Which was never what was happening. The actual population under debate is small, hormonally distinct, and individually variable. Policy built on a false premise produces unfair outcomes in every direction.The correct question is: how do we create fair competition for a small population of athletes with complex, individually variable physiology? The answer is not a blanket ban based on birth sex. It is individual hormone-based eligibility standards applied consistently regardless of transition direction. The same standard for FTM athletes on testosterone competing in women's categories as for MTF athletes. Consistent. Directionally neutral. Falsifiable. Fair.

 

 

 

Look. I see tons of transmen right lol 

 

 

1. The only rebuttal is "we would investigate FTM athletes who win too." But they do not. The investigation is triggered by visibility not by results. If a FTM athlete with 10x testosterone wins nobody investigates because nobody clocked her as trans. They look Lgbtqia+ more than anything. Gender non-conforming. 

 

2. The policy is a conformity enforcement mechanism disguised as a fairness mechanism. You cannot rebut that without admitting it. Endorsing of hallucinations.  

 

3. That video is bullshit and mainstream garbage. Most trans women actually pass as female and get ENT surgery and sound like ciswomen. This is propaganda garbage. A super rare case. Literally sounds like a fucking guy. I was horrified when I looked at the video. It was disgusting. Little to no fucking effort. That is the poster for Transgender.  In the real world transwomen literally i am telling you if you spoke to a dedicated or one who operated on first principles you'd never know they were trans to begin with unless they told you or your saw their genitals... even then, vaginoplasty + ENT + FFS(NOT EVEN NEEDED FOR MOST). Biased reporting. Chondrolaryngoplasty and glottoplasty and vaginoplasty with HRT.  No one would know. 

 

3.1]Caster Semenya was born with naturally elevated testosterone. Cisgender woman. Banned from competing as a woman because her biology did not conform to what "biological female" was assumed to mean. 

 

3.2]The debate cannot define "biologically female" in a way that includes all cisgender women and excludes all trans women without also excluding some intersex people. The binary is not biological fact. It is a social construct being enforced through policy and called science.

 

4. What about intersex individuals? Why not see MtF the same as intersex? Who is to interpret what you are "Biologically". Your BIAS! 

 

5. Leo Gura takes chemicals to treat his Hashimoto's. I take hormones to treat mine AND to produce the neurological and endocrine environment MY body functions best in. Both are endocrinology. Both are chemicals. Both are self-care. His are acceptable. Mine are ego and selfishness and self-deception🤣 The only difference is the cultural discomfort with what mine produce visually. That is his argument reduced to its actual foundation. Not a strawman 

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[Ulax]

9 minutes ago, Pineal said:

Female to male transgender athletes on testosterone therapy would have significantly elevated testosterone levels compared to cisgender women. If they compete in women's categories they have a meaningful physiological advantage in strength and power sports. Yet the policy debate almost exclusively focuses on male to female athletes.

The asymmetry reveals that the debate is not really about competitive fairness. It is about discomfort with trans women specifically. If it were purely about fairness the FTM question would receive equal attention. It does not.

Actually think about it. With trans politics you only focus on Penis'. The research goes much deeper if you are willing to look.

 

Its an asymmetry because female to male atheletes don't have a massive advantage over cisgender dudes. Contrast that with the male to female atheletes and cisgender women

[Hojo]

Are you a man? 

'Not every Trans thinks they are a woman. I don't. I can tell I was born a man.I do it for the feeling produced by estrogen'

Then you arent trans your a man taking estrogen.

It feels like you are taking 'trans' to equate 'hormones'

Trans is  metaphysical. hormones are physical.

 

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[Pineal]

57 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Are you a man? 

'Not every Trans thinks they are a woman. I don't. I can tell I was born a man.I do it for the feeling produced by estrogen'

Then you arent trans your a man taking estrogen.

It feels like you are taking 'trans' to equate 'hormones'

Trans is  metaphysical. hormones are physical.

 

I am intersex. The mind likes to hallucinate meta narratives. Transgender is a hallucination of the mind.

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[Ramasta9]

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