Israel drops charges against IDF soldiers raping palestinian detainee on video

[cistanche_enjoyer]

Isn’t this pure evil? How can a society let this get away?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/12/israeli-military-top-lawyer-drops-charges-soldiers-palestinian-detainee-abuse-gaza

Edited Thursday at 08:42 PM by cistanche_enjoyer
Didn’t post full title by mistake

[cistanche_enjoyer]

The video evidence: 

https://x.com/asif38689/status/2032157887363993861?s=46

[Willy Phallicus]

45 minutes ago, cistanche_enjoyer said:

How can a society let this get away?

Cuz society let it all get away from them hundreds of years ago.

[Karmadhi]

To understand that you need to understand the psyche and moral development of the Israeli military establishment and big chunks of Israeli society

In Western countries, stage orange to green societies, we think that torture is wrong. Murder is wrong. End of story.

In Europe you have many people arrested for terrorism charges, people who literally killed dozens and they were treated within all international law norms, not abused nor tortured nor starved. That is because Europe, especially Western Europe has a stage Orange/Green level of moral development

However, Israel is different

They may be technologically and intellectually very advanced but their morality is more akin to Stage Blue (majority of cases) or even Red (in some cases)

So to them, a terrorist is someone who deserves to suffer, who deserves to die

They do not hold the idea that all humans should have fundamental rights that protect them from torture or murder regardless of what they may have done.

To them someone who either is suspected or actually was involved in the murder of their people, should suffer

Which is why such acts happen and why everyone is on board with it

I have seen a debate in Israeli TV where a more morally developed debater said "we cant do this to people it is just wrong", and the other debater said "do you know what that person has done". Basically, if you hurt us, we will hurt you.

Now many humans think like this, even in more Orange countries. However, the state institutions fundamentally do not allow this because the institution itself is advanced enough to understand that torture is wrong and it should not become normalized in the society as it can cause huge problems in the overall society.

In Israel that is not the case, which is why the entire establishment is ok with this

From what I understood, that person who was raped was a suspect (either proved or not) of being involved with Hamas

To Israel, a Hamas fighter or sympathizer=A Nazi who wants to kill them simply because they exist, pure evil.

Russians do similar thing to Ukranian prisoners of war, torture is very spread there because they view Ukranian soldiers, especially Azof soldiers as anti-Russian fascists similar to WW2 Bandera gangs

And since the Russian morality is similar to Israel's , they torture them and starve them etc and the whole military establishment is ok with it. There were also examples of torture on the terrorists that killed hundreds in Moscow in 2024. 

Ukraine who is slightly more morally developed than Israel or Russia, does not torture in the same way Russian POWs even though those Russian's basically went to Ukraine and did tons of war crimes.

Note: The key is not whether someone is indeed a terrorist or a nazi etc but HOW they are perceived by the ones that torture them

So in the case of Ukranian soldiers, they may not be anti Russian fascists but to Russian soldiers, they are. 

The key is not whether the prisoner who gets tortured is guilty or not, evil or not. The key is whether a society is morally advanced enough to not rape, torture someone who they BELIEVE to be those things. To show restraint and act accordingly to the international basic convention of human rights.

Hope it is clear.

Edited 21 hours ago by Karmadhi

[Nivsch]

@Karmadhi You are partially correct, and its also only about half of the picture. Israel is essentially in a tension between orange-green and blue-orange values, at the public and institutional levels. The distinctions in the examples you gave are also not that simple and should include the impact of events, stressful environment, the mind's need to regain control and other factors.

Edited 13 hours ago by Nivsch

[Wilhelm44]

2 hours ago, Nivsch said:

@Karmadhi You are partially correct, and its also only about half of the picture. Israel is essentially in a tension between orange-green and blue-orange values, at the public and institutional levels. The distinctions in the examples you gave are also not that simple and should include the impact of events, stressful environment, the mind's need to regain control and other factors.

What reason did the Israeli government give for the charges being dropped ? 

[Karmadhi]

10 hours ago, Nivsch said:

You are partially correct, and its also only about half of the picture. Israel is essentially in a tension between orange-green and blue-orange values, at the public and institutional levels. The distinctions in the examples you gave are also not that simple and should include the impact of events, stressful environment, the mind's need to regain control and other factors.

I know which is why I said the military establishment instead of saying the entire country. The military establishment operates on the Blue-Orange framework, according to everything I have seen from them. One great example is the phrase "1 Israeli deaths should be avenged by 50 palestinians killed". This type of mindset. It was said by some top guy in the military too. I am sure u have many Israelis civil societies and people who are more Orange to Green. But when it comes to Palestine specifically I have noticed even normally Green people suddendly become blue

I am not going to argue why they are as they are, I am simply stating assessing their level of development.

Every entity has reasons to be at the level of development they are.

Why do you think Gaza's leadership is much more hardcore than the West Bank?

[Karmadhi]

7 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

What reason did the Israeli government give for the charges being dropped ? 

I do not know to be fair, better ask the person who created the thread.

But it is very clear to me that they do not consider the act to be immoral or wrong which is the core reason why

They may give some legal bs justification but the core reason is that they do not consider that action to be wrong if it was done to someone they consider to be a terrorist.

If it was done to another Israeli soldier or a UN peacekeeper etc (hypothetically), the reaction would be very very very different.

To them "who it happens to", is much more important than "what was done to them".

Edited 5 hours ago by Karmadhi

[Nivsch]

11 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

What reason did the Israeli government give for the charges being dropped ? 

The story began when the Israeli Military Advocate leaked the video to Israel's channel 12 that published it and then it spread to the world. On the other side is the government which says this is a blood libel.

Edited 1 hour ago by Nivsch

[Nivsch]

For whoever wants to deepen, here is a wider discussion in Israel about the Military Avocate during the affair.

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Nivsch

[Karmadhi]

10 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

For whoever wants to deepen, here is a wider discussion in Israel about the Military Avocate during the affair.

I wonder is the left outrage in Israel because a Palestinian suffered inhumanely and totally against any moral or legal norm or because the exposer is getting threaneded and her career is being attacked?

Is there empathy also for the Palestinian or only for the exposer?

That is important to understand

I notice even more left wing in Israel do not share the same universal empathy and care towards Palestinians like for example people in France do