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AI hate, my opinion

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There's this wave of AI hate Online where lots of people are criticizing AI and calling it sloppy and useless and dumb. and accusing it of making us dumb and slow... 

and in my opinion, it's just dumb group think rejecting anything new. it's just a bunch of generalizations, cherry picking rants that lack depth and nuance.

AI is a fucking skill, the output you get is a reflection of you. you can't just type "make me an app" and then complain how sloppy the output is.

if your prompt is bellow a 1000 words, and is vague, don't expect anything great. a prompt should leave no room for the AI to guess things.

and if you use it for full creativity, you'll also get sloppy stuff.

AI is a tool, like any other tool we created as lazy ass humans that want to outsource anything repetitive and boring. 

when we got tired of washing clothes with our bare hands, we invented washing machines. and did that make us dumb or inefficient? no it made it possible to wash lots of clothes at once with no effort.

people have literally reacted the same way when other tools were invented, like the calculator, the computer, the camera, google....

the point is, AI is for outsourcing mechanical tasks, not creativity. if you want to build an app, you don't outsource everything to AI, you outsource repetitive productive stuff that require little to no creativity.

AI is also for navigating uncertainty by thinking with it, not letting it think for you.

AI doesn't replace thinking and creativity, it amplifies it and makes it faster.

think of it as "artificial leverage" rather than "artificial intelligence" 

 

here's how AI benefited my life:

 

• makes me able to write social posts and copywriting stuff so fast and efficient, with huge volume.

• helps me articulate ideas better in any style and tone.

• in architecture school, i no longer need a high performing PC, because i can just design a building with basic software and the AI renders everything for me, don't even need a graphics card or big ram.

• i use it as a companion for inner work. we are talking shadow work, personality tests, coaching, contemplation and more. and from my experience, it is efficient and accurate but only for guiding me towards the right direction.

• makes research way faster and targeted.

• it amplified my learning of technical skills. courses that teach technical stuff now are basically useless

• helps me generate original insights and ideas, by discussing with it and connecting dots.

• helps with feedback with any area of my life.

• helps me with making technical visuals that would take me 3 hours to make on my own using Photoshop but only 15 minutes with it.

• helps with scheduling, productivity, tracking.

• helps with problem solving, whatever the type of teh problem is.

• The ratio between productivity and creativity in my life has shifted heavily toward creativity thanks to AI.

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I think it is just the overinflated hype most users are against. In particular the overselling is to generate revenue and exploit those who might not understand the topic.

If you read the topics there is more nuance than most simply hating on AI. Even those here who are more against it recognise its merit. 

I think only a couple of users are full on anti-ai.


It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them they have been fooled.

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@Natasha Tori Maru i agree, i wasn't responding to any forum posts, I'm just expressing my opinion using second person writing 

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@YIDIRYIDIR gotcha ᕙ⁠(⁠@⁠°⁠▽⁠°⁠@⁠)⁠ᕗ

Ngl I deal with much more AI hate and fear mongering off the forums than on.

To the extent it has been banned as a topic at all work functions.

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It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them they have been fooled.

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It is not hate. It is a grounded understanding of the technology vs hype and pipe dreams.


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11 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@YIDIRYIDIR gotcha ᕙ⁠(⁠@⁠°⁠▽⁠°⁠@⁠)⁠ᕗ

Ngl I deal with much more AI hate and fear mongering off the forums than on.

To the extent it has been banned as a topic at all work functions.

god damn, what fear and ego does

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@Leo Gura i agree, AI is not a magic wand, it is very flawed. i guess the hype is marketing. but there's also a huge backlash from people simply rejecting AI without second thoughts. so many videos, so many posts and comments it's crazy.

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47 minutes ago, YIDIRYIDIR said:

AI is a fucking skill, the output you get is a reflection of you.

This is the most important phrase I've read this day.

Epic take!

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56 minutes ago, YIDIRYIDIR said:

when we got tired of washing clothes with our bare hands, we invented washing machines. and did that make us dumb or inefficient? no it made it possible to wash lots of clothes at once with no effort.

Washing clothes by hand isn't as important as straining your mind to understand the issue without outside assistence and ready-made answers.

Washing machine doesn't affect critical thinking abilities but mindlessly querying and believing LLMs might affect it negatively, but only if you use it that way.

The whole point of those threads was that people won't carefully consider how to use LLMs responsibly.

It's the same pattern as:

"Well, king says so it must be true"

"Well, I read it in a newspaper so it must be true"

"Well, I saw it on TV so it must be true"

"Well, I saw it on Facebook so it must be true"

"Well, Claude told me so it must be true"

You get the point.

And this got more complex over time. Now it's literally telling you with a tone of authority and certainty, something that can be flat out wrong, and if you correct it, it will just appoligize and continue as if nothing. In other words, it's hallusinating.

That's being improved though. Todays models do less of that, but still, I face with that issue daily.

All that being said, it's been a very useful tool for me. But I'm willing to invest some time into figuring out how it really works, what are traps into using it and in what ways can it rotten my mind and consider that really carefully.

Most people won't do that. 

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@bazera to clarify, I'm not aware of any threads or posts on the forum talking about AI, i thought this rejection of AI is a trend and posted my opinion.

also, as i said, it is a skill. the prompt is everything, you have to constrain the output so much otherwise AI will keep guessing things like context, tone, goal of the response, where to look and pull from, who it is talking to, who is it talking as... 

and simply believing AI is the user's responsibility, just like for any other source (book, article, video....) 

and hallucination is a feature of AI, not a bug, it is programmed to generate answers with certainty. notice how it will never say "i don't know, I'm not sure" 

so the variable here is the user's input. 

for example, if you are creating an animation, you don't just tell an artist "animate a guy kicking somebody in the face" because he'll draw a random generic kick. 

you rather tell him every detail possible, and create the first and last frame yourself (creative part) and all he does is connect those frames by drawing the ones in between (hope you get this niche example haha)

same for any other intellectual or creative task. it all depends on how much you outsource to AI.

 

 

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@YIDIRYIDIR Sure, I use it mostly for coding and correct prompt and context is crucial for it to do what I want.

Yes it's not that AI is a problem per se. It's peoples whole approach towards life. But it shows up strakly when you query an LLM and just take whatever it tells you at face value.

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