Money and spiritual teachings

[Thetruthseeker]

This idea has constantly had me going back and forth and I wanted some thoughts … 

I remember seeing Teal Swan, and she had ‘meet and greet’ prices to an event for £1,250 (1700 dollars roughly) 

Do you think it’s moral or ethical? 
Is it ok for to be spiritual and want a lot of money, or is that not in alignment? 

i understand there’s this thing in the self help where it seems trickier to charge a lot because it feels like spiritual teachers are meant to be helping people. But of course that’s the same for vets and doctors who overcharge. There seems more stigma around spiritual teachers. 
 

i remember being at a meditation retreat, and people were talking about money, I said to the group, if the teacher drove here in a Porsche, would you think differently of them. They answered ‘yes’ 

 

At what point are the prices that teal swan, Tony robbins, etc charge ‘worth it’ for their services, and at what point are they abusing their position and just fleecing people? 

 

[LordFall]

Money is very spiritual. It's literally a means of accounting life energy. If you think you can reach a lot of people and impact their lives without money, business and marketing skills than I mean that seems like a fool's errand to me.

I think of spiritual people that are very against money to just be spiritually bypassing. If you think of yourself above money then that's just another form of spiritual arrogance.

Teal swan has hundreds of free videos on her channel that she's spent tens of thousands of dollars hiring an editing team and content team to put out and produce. That's not enough for you? She has to go out and make continuous free events without renumeration? Why? Why is expecting other entities to work for you, spend their limited time and suffer to do so for free? 

You can absolutely take advantage of vulnerable people and charge more than they're able to afford due to their desperation and through cult like manipulation but summarizing the mere act of a commercial transaction as such is delusional IMO. 

 

[EmiHyen]

Money is an abstraction of value. Ideally, more money means more value being created. Value expands the possibilities of a system.

If the idea of money isn’t deconstructed, it easily becomes corrupted.

At some point it stops being about value and turns into simple accumulation: hoarding money, chasing comfort, status, or just playing the survival game. 

People with large amounts of money could be creating incredible systems and meaningful projects instead of just conforming to existing patterns. But most people don’t see the abstraction behind money. They just want more of it.

It’s like a body that keeps eating but refuses to process the nutrients.

From a spiritual view, money is a way consciousness organizes itself to bring possibilities from the infinite into reality.

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[Leo Gura]

It depends on what she is charging that money for. Just a meet and greet? Then it's wrong. But if she is offering a multi-day workshop then that's okay.

I did the math on running workshops, and charging less than $1500/seat just doesn't make sense given the labor and hassle of organizing it. But this is for a multi-day, serious workshop.

A meet and greet should not cost more than a couple hundred bucks.

Tony Robbins shit is a rip off.

The more popular a teacher is, the more their events become rip-offs and cash-grabs. Tony Robbins is the pinnacle of that. Everything Tony does is a cash-grab.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura