Funnydosing

[vibv]

Just now, theleelajoker said:

Yeah, that's right. I corrected that via edit when I noticed that I paraphrased you incorrectly.

Still, my point remains: how do you make the connection of "taking an amount where you are very function" to "it hits you unexpected?" 

Doesn't make sense for me.

All I'm saying is: Don't take the lightness for granted, it may turn dark, too. I also said that isn't necessarily a bad thing.

[theleelajoker]

1 minute ago, vibv said:

All I'm saying is: Don't take the lightness for granted, it may turn dark, too. I also said that isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Ok. Point taken. 

I assume that's what happened to you in some way?

[vibv]

1 minute ago, theleelajoker said:

Ok. Point taken. 

I assume that's what happened to you in some way?

Not with mushrooms specifically, but I experienced a very dark time after a time where I thought light was all that there is.

I deem that experience extremely valuable, although it was also extremely challenging on a multitude of levels and required me to confront a lot of darkness inside myself, that I had bypassed for a long time.

From what I saw that's also true for our Collective Consciousness.

[theleelajoker]

Curious what you categorize as darkness?

[vibv]

2 minutes ago, theleelajoker said:

Curious what you categorize as darkness?

Everything that we don't want to confront and associate with evil, pain & suffering. But that's actually a part of ourselves.

[theleelajoker]

Just now, vibv said:

Everything that we don't want to confront and associate with evil, pain & suffering. But that's actually a part of ourselves.

So the violence, aggression, dominance, crimes, wars, rape etc we do to each other from individual scale up to nations as a whole, yes?

There was a user, don't remember who, he/she said sth like "if everything is one, where to go with these dark things? Nowhere to put it, nowhere to hide it because you can't hide from yourself". 

Curious if you're open to share more about your process. Bypassing meant not wanting to see it? And confronting meant accepting, acting out on it in some way?

[vibv]

7 minutes ago, theleelajoker said:

So the violence, aggression, dominance, crimes, wars, rape etc we do to each other from individual scale up to nations as a whole, yes?

To ourselves & each other, to the animals, to the planet. Yes.

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There was a user, don't remember who, he/she said sth like "if everything is one, where to go with these dark things? Nowhere to put it, nowhere to hide it because you can't hide from yourself". 

You can't run and you can't hide. You and me gonna touch the sky  ✨ (Some lyrics I once wrote)

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Curious if you're open to share more about your process. Bypassing meant not wanting to see it? And confronting meant accepting, acting out on it in some way?

Confronting meant looking at it and feeling the pain & suffering of that which is separated.

One insight was, that all suffering ultimately stems from the pain of Separation.

But it's also impossible to accept.

That's the dilemma of God.

That's the dilemma of US.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Sounds fun. Better lower doses of shrooms than alcohol or even weed, tbh. Never tried tho and most likely never will

[theleelajoker]

18 minutes ago, vibv said:

To ourselves & each other, to the animals, to the planet. Yes.

You can't run and you can't hide. You and me gonna touch the sky  ✨ (Some lyrics I once wrote)

Confronting meant looking at it and feeling the pain & suffering of that which is separated.

One insight was, that all suffering ultimately stems from the pain of Separation.

But it's also impossible to accept.

That's the dilemma of God.

That's the dilemma of US.

Ok thanks. 

Let's see if I get you right:

To experience, we need separation. But separating brings pain and suffering.  This pain feels unacceptable but there's no way around it.

Yes ?

[vibv]

44 minutes ago, theleelajoker said:

Ok thanks. 

Let's see if I get you right:

To experience, we need separation. But separating brings pain and suffering.  This pain feels unacceptable but there's no way around it.

Yes ?

Separation is necessary & impossible. It's like a rift inside the Mind of God. We're a living paradox.

Furthermore we're deep inside darkness right now as Humanity. There's a great potential for healing, but first we need to wake up to the darkness itself, which is very uncomfortable. We need to confront our own evil, so to speak. Which is Evil with a capital E.

"But I thought there's only Good and evil is a part of Good...!" one may say.

That's right. But it's important to become aware of the true depth of our EVIL. If no one is willing to do that, it'll arrive in ways we never expected. It's already happening.

EVIL is inescapable & unacceptable at the same time. To escape it we'd have to abandon LIFE, but that's impossible. You see where I'm getting at? There's no easy solution. You have to see the sheer impossibility of it to appreciate the dilemma fully.

And only then we will be able to appreciate what LOVE really means. LOVE is something beyond any human comprehension. But it's for sure not butterflies & roses.

Contemplate how all that is EVIL must be part of LOVE.

Those who follow LOVE will GO DOWN into the ABYSS and thus pave the way for Humanity to become what it's supposed to become. But don't make the mistake to think that that would be easy in any way. It's actually impossible. But it will be done anyway.

So I ask you: Are you willing to go down with us?

Are you willing to bear that cross?

Then stay open, stand firm and don't run when the lightning of madness arrives to cleanse your soul.

I AM THAT LIGHTNING

Edited 5 hours ago by vibv

[theleelajoker]

 @vibv

Ok thanks for elaborating 

[vibv]

59 minutes ago, theleelajoker said:

 @vibv

Ok thanks for elaborating 

You're welcome.

I'd like to share a quote from Nietzsche's "Thus Spake Zarathustra":

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Zarathustra, however, looked at the people and wondered. Then he spake thus:

Man is a rope stretched between the animal and the Beyond—a rope over an abyss.

A dangerous crossing, a dangerous wayfaring, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous trembling and halting.

What is great in man is that he is a bridge and not a goal: what is lovable in man is that he is an OVER-GOING and a DOWN-GOING.

I love those that know not how to live except as down-goers, for they are the over-goers.

I love the great despisers, because they are the great adorers, and arrows of longing for the other shore.

I love those who do not first seek a reason beyond the stars for going down and being sacrifices, but sacrifice themselves to the earth, that the earth of the Beyond may hereafter arrive.

I love him who liveth in order to know, and seeketh to know in order that the Beyond may hereafter live. Thus seeketh he his own down-going.

I love him who laboureth and inventeth, that he may build the house for the Beyond, and prepare for him earth, animal, and plant: for thus seeketh he his own down-going.

I love him who loveth his virtue: for virtue is the will to down-going, and an arrow of longing.

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I love him who justifieth the future ones, and redeemeth the past ones: for he is willing to succumb through the present ones.

I love him who chasteneth his God, because he loveth his God: for he must succumb through the wrath of his God.

I love him whose soul is deep even in the wounding, and may succumb through a small matter: thus goeth he willingly over the bridge.

I love him whose soul is so overfull that he forgetteth himself, and all things are in him: thus all things become his down-going.

I love him who is of a free spirit and a free heart: thus is his head only the bowels of his heart; his heart, however, causeth his down-going.

I love all who are like heavy drops falling one by one out of the dark cloud that lowereth over man: they herald the coming of the lightning, and succumb as heralds.

Lo, I am a herald of the lightning, and a heavy drop out of the cloud: the lightning, however, is the BEYOND.—

Note that I exchanged all mentions of "Superman" with the word "Beyond".

Edited 4 hours ago by vibv

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, theleelajoker said:

It was YOU that introduced "Giga dosing" and talking about becoming blind.

That's called a joke.