What's the Difference Between Consciousness and Intelligence?

[Eskilon]

@LastThursday By that logic non-existence exists because it is the opposite of existence. But that is false, only existence exists, theres no contrast even though it appears so because we are using language.

Consciousness and intelligence seems to be fused together so theres nothing that is unintelligent if reality is consciousness.

Edited Monday at 08:59 PM by Eskilon

[Eskilon]

39 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

 It is the one Infinite Mind in its purest state.  It can spawn things into existence instantaneously, create entre galaxies out of thin air - and so on.  Just as when you dream at night you are creating an entire reality of your own out of thin air. 

So you did experience the power of creating planets, galaxies and universes?? And then dropped out of it? 

You were functionally all knowing and intelligent ? You knew every language that existed, exists and will exists?

[Inliytened1]

7 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

So you did experience the power of creating planets, galaxies and universes?? And then dropped out of it? 

You were functionally all knowing and intelligent ? You knew every language that existed, exists and will exists?

Yes I experienced omniscience and dropped out of that state after a few minutes.  But in that state I understood everything.   Could I have created galaxies?  Omniscience is that.

Edited Monday at 09:47 PM by Inliytened1

[Inliytened1]

@Eskilon you do it every day at night. You create entire universes everyday. 

[LastThursday]

1 hour ago, Eskilon said:

By that logic non-existence exists because it is the opposite of existence.

By that logic, there is only existence. Existence exists and non-existence exists. But I get where you're coming from.

It could well be that intelligence is like existence in that it has no opposite or contrast or boundary. I'm open to that. But if that is the case then it's a binary condition, either it's intelligence or not, with nothing in between. Like, stuff either exists or it doesn't, there's nothing in between. Absolute intelligence if you like. If something exists and has no boundary, then it is absolute, monolithic, and unchanging.

[Inliytened1]

10 minutes ago, LastThursday said:

By that logic, there is only existence. Existence exists and non-existence exists. But I get where you're coming from.

It could well be that intelligence is like existence in that it has no opposite or contrast or boundary. I'm open to that. But if that is the case then it's a binary condition, either it's intelligence or not, with nothing in between. Like, stuff either exists or it doesn't, there's nothing in between. Absolute intelligence if you like. If something exists and has no boundary, then it is absolute, monolithic, and unchanging.

Intelligence is an Absolute like i was saying to him..it is a facet of Consciousness.   Just like Consciousness is Infinite. And Infinity can stand on its own as an Absolute.  Intelligence can stand on its own as an Absolute because it is Understanding. It is Consciousness fundamentally.  At the same time it is still a facet.

Edited Monday at 10:27 PM by Inliytened1

[LastThursday]

@Inliytened1 anything without a boundary is infinite. In fact that is the definition of infinity. And it's also absolute by definition, because there's nothing to contrast it with, and so it can't be distinguished and hence it's an unchanging Truth. I 100% agree with you.

Can consciousness know an infinity? There seems to be many finite things in consciousness, but how do you "know" you have an infinity without taking it on faith? Is consciousness infinite? Is intelligence infinite? Or does consciousness recognise infinities without using reason?

Edited Monday at 10:39 PM by LastThursday

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, LastThursday said:

@Inliytened1 

Can consciousness know an infinity? 

The ultimate paradox.

Can inifnity know infinity.  

[Inliytened1]

22 minutes ago, LastThursday said:

@Inliytened1 anything without a boundary is infinite. In fact that is the definition of infinity. And it's also absolute by definition, because there's nothing to contrast it with, and so it can't be distinguished and hence it's an unchanging Truth. I 100% agree with you.

Can consciousness know an infinity? There seems to be many finite things in consciousness, but how do you "know" you have an infinity without taking it on faith? Is consciousness infinite? Is intelligence infinite? Or does consciousness recognise infinities without using reason?

You need an awakening that Consciousness is Infinite. 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, LastThursday said:

anything without a boundary is infinite. In fact that is the definition of infinity

Many things are both infinite and limited. In fact, all infinities are limited. Numbers, for example, are infinite, but they are limited to not being letters. And so it is with everything.

That which is unlimited is not infinite because it is not something. If it were something, it would be limited to being that something, even if that something were infinite. The unlimited is not dimensional; it is the potential where infinities are possible

[Breakingthewall]

Intelligence is the coherence necessary for existence to exist.

If we could grasp the synchronicity at the ultimate level, at the level of the interconnected vibrations of the fields of reality, necessary for an insect to exist, what we would see would be unimaginable.

All human knowledge, everything we call intelligence, would be nothing. The design of reality is absolute intelligence, not because there is an intelligent designer, but because only absolute coherence exists. That which is not coherent in all its facets cannot be sustained, cannot occur, cannot happen. Reality is interconnected at a level we cannot intuit, and there is no creator. The creator is creation; reality simply is because there are not limits, and it's manifestation is absolute intelligence because anything else can't exist 

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Intelligence is the coherence necessary for existence to exist.

If we could grasp the synchronicity at the ultimate level, at the level of the interconnected vibrations of the fields of reality, necessary for an insect to exist, what we would see would be unimaginable.

All human knowledge, everything we call intelligence, would be nothing. The design of reality is absolute intelligence, not because there is an intelligent designer, but because only absolute coherence exists. That which is not coherent in all its facets cannot be sustained, cannot occur, cannot happen. Reality is interconnected at a level we cannot intuit, and there is no creator. The creator is creation; reality simply is because there are not limits, and it's manifestation is absolute intelligence because anything else can't exist 

Saying if is too Infinite to have a creator is no different than saying it has a creator.  Infinity is the creator.

Your trying to deny God while acknowledging God at the same time.

Edited Tuesday at 12:24 AM by Inliytened1

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, Inliytened1 said:

Saying if is too Infinite to have a creator is no different than waying ir has a creator.  Infinity is the creator.

Your trying to deny God while acknowledging God at the same time.

God is a creator with intentions and motivations, who plans and knows. That is, an entity separate from reality that creates or "dreams" it. This is not the case; reality unfolds because there are no limits, it is inevitable, there is no creator, creation and creator are one, there is no intention, there is inevitability.

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

God is a creator with intentions and motivations, who plans and knows. That is, an entity separate from reality that creates or "dreams" it. This is not the case; reality unfolds because there are no limits, it is inevitable, there is no creator, creation and creator are one, there is no intention, there is inevitability.

But that also can be God.

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, Inliytened1 said:

But that also can be God.

You can call it God, but this god doesn't know, it just is. In fact that's what you are. 

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

You can call it God, but this god doesn't know, it just is. In fact that's what you are. 

That's exactly what God is. 

[Breakingthewall]

6 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

That's exactly what God is. 

Then you can call it reality more than god. God implies will, planificación, creation, control,  and there is not that. There is not god level where you are creating, the god level is right now. Right now the absolute is. It's this, not any other thing. There is not control, because control would be a limit. Really is unlimited 

Edited Tuesday at 12:35 AM by Breakingthewall

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Then you can call it reality more than god. God implies will, planificación, creation, control,  and there is not that. There is not god level where you are creating, the god level is right now. Right now the absolute is. It's this, not any other thing. There is not control, because control would be a limit. Really is unlikely 

If the God level is right now thee is no other people either.

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, Inliytened1 said:

If the God level is right now thee is no other people either.

Why not? The unlimited would be limited to one point of view? 

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

Why not? The unlimited would be limited to one point of view? 

Silly.  You contradict yourself.  Can it possibly be that you are creating all of reality without being aware of it? After all you dream amazing things and have no idea how you do it.  All the characters.  All the detail.  And yet as you dream it you arent conscious of how you are doing it.  Its the magic of Inifnity.  Maybe reality is the same thing.