Pickup, Sexual Abundance & Emptiness

[CARDOZZO]

1 hour ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I'm impressed by this foreign area of creation actually -- like others are when they look at me.  

Do you mean pickup/seduction? 

 

[Miguel1]

1 hour ago, CARDOZZO said:

I wish it was easy. It is like saying: you can have a million dollars NOW but I want you to drop all that to meditate on a cave for hours to transcend money.

It takes time  

I don’t think this is the analogy brother.

It’s more like: have millions now but nothing else; live an absolutely meaningless life or,

Have 200-300k but a much more fulfilling and meaningful lifestyle, relationship, career etc.

[Miguel1]

1 hour ago, CARDOZZO said:

The process of grieving itself builds stronger foundations.

This is huge.

I am also in the process of grieving so many things, after finally having my fantasies and illusions about them shattered.

I am taking my time to grieve and to process.

[CARDOZZO]

7 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

I don’t think this is the analogy brother.

It’s more like: have millions now but nothing else; live an absolutely meaningless life or,

Have 200-300k but a much more fulfilling and meaningful lifestyle, relationship, career etc.

Well said. More nuances 😎

[cistanche_enjoyer]

2 hours ago, Miguel1 said:

Truly, the high of getting validation from having girls being deeply into you is quite addictive.

Wait until you find out you can love yourself even deeper. In fact, infinitely deep. So deep, that it kills you and merges you with the whole of existence into a singularity of Infinite Love.

Once you get that experience, the girls will pale in comparison. They are still nice tho 

[CARDOZZO]

18 minutes ago, cistanche_enjoyer said:

Wait until you find out you can love yourself even deeper. In fact, infinitely deep. So deep, that it kills you and merges you with the whole of existence into a singularity of Infinite Love.

Once you get that experience, the girls will pale in comparison. They are still nice tho 

Can you hold that Love onto your day to day routine?

[CARDOZZO]

28 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

This is huge.

I am also in the process of grieving so many things, after finally having my fantasies and illusions about them shattered.

I am taking my time to grieve and to process.

Grieving is such a powerful tool. Damn!

[Miguel1]

21 minutes ago, cistanche_enjoyer said:

Wait until you find out you can love yourself even deeper. In fact, infinitely deep. So deep, that it kills you and merges you with the whole of existence into a singularity of Infinite Love.

Once you get that experience, the girls will pale in comparison. They are still nice tho 

I know that in theory and it makes perfect sense.

The reason I havent pursued that yet is because I havent mastered my surival.

I imagine reaching such states of Love and Consciousness will reduce my motivation to master survival dramatically.

But truly, I am very much looking forward to doing some serious psychedelic work. It’s one of the few things I seriously look forward to in this life.

Edited 3 hours ago by Miguel1

[cistanche_enjoyer]

4 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

I imagine reaching such states of Love and Consciousness will reduce my motivation to master survival dramatically

For me the opposite was the case actually. Why would you assume that?

[Miguel1]

@cistanche_enjoyer Why go out to the marketplace to play the unsatisfying game, when you can totally bask in Love?

[cistanche_enjoyer]

Because after a while you get bored 

You can do both. The middle way. You can get totally lost in the drama and adventures of the illusion, and then come home and bask in Infinite Love. 

[CARDOZZO]

7 minutes ago, cistanche_enjoyer said:

Because after a while you get bored 

You can do both. The middle way. You can get totally lost in the drama and adventures of the illusion, and then come home and bask in Infinite Love. 

How do you do it? Can you describe the processes, systems, books, resources, meditations, contemplations to live it?

[Miguel1]

14 minutes ago, cistanche_enjoyer said:

Because after a while you get bored 

You can do both. The middle way. You can get totally lost in the drama and adventures of the illusion, and then come home and bask in Infinite Love. 

I wouldnt say its so simple.

My baseline level of consciousness has increased each year. Each year as I become more conscious, I care less and less about monkey games. I simply cant force myself to get ”lost” in them.

Imagine after doing serious psychedelics and spiritual work..

[cistanche_enjoyer]

4 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

Each year as I become more conscious, I care less and less about monkey games. I simply cant force myself to get ”lost” in them.

That’s because you haven’t gone all the way through yet.

It’s the 10 stages of the ox-herding in buddhism. The last one is going back to the marketplace.

After you become conscious of everything, and all your questions are answered, why wouldn’t you go back to the monkey games? What else is there to do?

[cistanche_enjoyer]

18 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

How do you do it? Can you describe the processes, systems, books, resources, meditations, contemplations to live it?

I’m not sure it’s something you can put in a process or a system. A lot more is going on. I could write a book about it. Actually I am writing a book about it 

I’ll think about if any resources come to my mind. Maybe read stories and quotes of masters like Sri Anandamayi Ma, Neem Karoli Baba, etc.

And just try to be in service to others. Do random acts of kindness. Feed the hungry, help the poor.

[CARDOZZO]

9 minutes ago, cistanche_enjoyer said:

I’m not sure it’s something you can put in a process or a system. A lot more is going on. I could write a book about it. Actually I am writing a book about it 

I’ll think about if any resources come to my mind. Maybe read stories and quotes of masters like Sri Anandamayi Ma, Neem Karoli Baba, etc.

And just try to be in service to others. Do random acts of kindness. Feed the hungry, help the poor.

Sure. I just want to understand your experience clearly.

A lot of people here on the forum spill their philosophies on how to live, love, god, consciousness then you ask them about it, they just tell you: oh, just be it bro.

 

[Jowblob]

5 hours ago, CARDOZZO said:

I never thought that I would suffer from abundance/success. Now I understand why rich people kill themselves. They have everything, right? NO.

This is not abundance. Having abundance in a material consciousness like yours is meaningless and has nothing to do with abundance, why? Because when you're having sex with different girls your ego is engaged, and you're lacking in feeling and pleasure and unity. Which means everytime you're having sex with a girl, you're not feeling much and the sensations and pleasure are tiny, that it's not even worth having sex, this is why it will feel empty or even emotionless. 

Edited 9 minutes ago by Jowblob

[Basman]

There's always another horizon. Progress itself is what makes human happy, so just keep paddling. 

I lapped up enough of Leo's knowledge sap to know that there's degrees of awakening. No rest for the wicked.