He Alone

[James123]

4 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

Nothing is eternal and nothing is ultimate creator.......those concepts were created by scared humans that desperately wanted something to hope for. 

When that whole conditioned paradigm is shattered, it's actually quite hilarious to even imagine believing in such silliness at one point.

Hopelessness ends up being the freedom 🤷‍♂️

What an imagination. 

[Someone here]

7 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

That "Infinite Self" identification is still "ego illusion"......trust!

No it isn't.  We are way too advanced at this point to argue the illusory separate self inside the body . Same page on the illusory ego .

Your point seems to be that infinity is real but it is not you. It has nothing to do with you .it is not your identity or what you are. It is just neutral brute existence. Correct ? You are not denying existence but you don't define yourself with anything that exists? 

[CosmicTrekker]

If there was nowhere to go

(From the perspective of the alone). 

If there was nowhere to go,
No path to traverse, no destination to know,
I would find myself in the present, you see,
For the present moment is where I would be.

No forward motion, no backward glance,
Just a stillness, a timeless dance.
In the here and now, I would reside,
With no need to seek or to hide.

No past regrets, no future fears,
No longing for what’s not yet here.
I would be free from the pull of time,
Immersed in the eternal, sublime.

In the absence of a journey’s quest,
I would find peace, in this moment’s nest.
For the beauty of existence would unfold,
In the timeless space, where I am whole.

So, if there was nowhere to go, you see,
I would simply be, in the here and now, free.
Embracing the present, without a care,
For in the now, true presence I would share.

[VeganAwake]

18 hours ago, Someone here said:

Your point seems to be that infinity is real but it is not you. It has nothing to do with you .it is not your identity or what you are.

There are human bodies just like deer, rabbits, birds....etc..etc.

They are all part of infinity, but they are just empty vessels. There isn't a you or me inside of the bodies.

That which wants to identify as infinity, become enlightened and live forever, is the self illusion. 

It is just neutral brute existence. Correct ?

Yes

You are not denying existence but you don't define yourself with anything that exists? 

Yes, its not a denial of existence.

It's a realization that the conscious experiencer within the human body or as the human body,.......... never actually existed.

 

[Inliytened1]

 

 

On 2/5/2026 at 11:31 PM, VeganAwake said:

Nothing is eternal and nothing is ultimate creator.......those concepts were created by scared humans that desperately wanted something to hope for. 

When that whole conditioned paradigm is shattered, it's actually quite hilarious to even imagine believing in such silliness at one point.

Hopelessness ends up being the freedom 🤷‍♂️

You have yet to understand the paradox and how it comes full circle.  Nothing is eternal and nothing is creator yet you profoundly cry against it.  So what then is that which can oppose it. @james123 doesn't have the answer nor do you.

Edited Saturday at 02:10 PM by Inliytened1

[VeganAwake]

11 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

You have yet to understand the paradox and how it comes full circle.  Nothing is eternal and nothing is creator yet you profoundly cry against it.  So what then is that which can oppose it. @james123 doesn't have the answer nor do you.

No complaints here. Maybe it sounds like complaining or opposing from that perspective over there, not sure!

No answers were attempted to be given, just the end of learned belief systems/conditioned concepts about reality stemming from an illusory "me" character afraid of death.

The word "answer" insinuates there is a real "question" or a "problem" which needs to be figured out. 

There isn't one!

Nothing is actually false but there can seem to be misunderstandings within apparent reality.

Questions and or apparent problems only arise out of misunderstandings.

Reality is already itself......where would the need for an answer arise, is the only question?

[Inliytened1]

5 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

No complaints here. Maybe it sounds like complaining or opposing from that perspective over there, not sure!

No answers were attempted to be given, just the end of learned belief systems/conditioned concepts about reality stemming from an illusory "me" character afraid of death.

The word "answer" insinuates there is a real "question" or a "problem" which needs to be figured out. 

There isn't one!

Nothing is actually false but there can seem to be misunderstandings within apparent reality.

Questions and or apparent problems only arise out of misunderstandings.

Reality is already itself......where would the need for an answer arise, is the only question?

Because it seems that you are afraid to make absolute statements about reality.   Why should you limit yourself to not be able to do that?  

If reality is itself shouldn't you be able to make concrete statements about reality or is this not allowed in your worldview?

For example  ~ to the question of reality being eternal - what happens when your body dies? Can you answer that or do you think it doesnt need to be asked.   If it doesnt need to be asked does that mean it can't be asked? And does that mean it can't be answered?

Also the irony in your worldview is that you do make concrete statements about reality.  You say it is itself but you say there is no creator and there is no eternal.  That is a concrete statement that would suggest it is finite or that it isnt anything but itself.  

This is a position whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

Edited yesterday at 02:35 AM by Inliytened1

[VeganAwake]

6 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Because it seems that you are afraid to make absolute statements about reality.   Why should you limit yourself to not be able to do that?  

If reality is itself shouldn't you be able to make concrete statements about reality or is this not allowed in your worldview?

For example  ~ to the question of reality being eternal - what happens when your body dies? Can you answer that or do you think it doesnt need to be asked.   If it doesnt need to be asked does that mean it can't be asked? And does that mean it can't be answered?

Also the irony in your worldview is that you do make concrete statements about reality.  You say it is itself but you say there is no creator and there is no eternal.  That is a concrete statement that would suggest it is finite or that it isnt anything but itself.  

This is a position whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

Yup,

Nothing is absolute!

👍

[James123]

23 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

 

 

You have yet to understand the paradox and how it comes full circle.  Nothing is eternal and nothing is creator yet you profoundly cry against it.  So what then is that which can oppose it. @james123 doesn't have the answer nor do you.

There is no such thing as paradox or not paradox. All is mind, belief, thought. Meanwhile not even there 😂