2026 Nootropics Investment Experiment (+400€)

[GabeN]

cool stack, didn't know NAC can be considered a nootroopic, for sleep Glycine 3g, Melatonin 300 mcg and L-Theanine 200mg has been great for help, also Magnesium Bisglycinate is amazing for sleep as wel...

as for cognition i do like modafinil on demanding days. didn't try Armodafinil yet, but i feel like cratine and omega 3 do give a good boost.

[Davino]

9 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

(Ar)modafinil is sanctified crack. A drug dealer I knew used to be on them.

You're comparing apples with oranges here. And you were so outraged by me comparing Ketamine with Pyrazolam lol

[Davino]

8 hours ago, Ramasta9 said:

Even nootropics, again its something you have to experience for yourself. When i take such things while i am at least a few weeks on this diet and lifetyle and or fasting and meditating or being in nature a lot, i notice they distort / dilute reality / perception and actually become a hindrance to ones natural state. Its like an ongoing flow state, often happens when you are meditating a lot or fasting, anything else added only mixes the consciousness / clarity / focus / flow up. Nootropics help mind / focus but there's yer another layer of Awareness beyond that that naturally arises once the body is purified and this cant be topped by any additive.

Yes, I see what you mean, thanks for clarifying, but I still hold my position.

No natural runner will run faster than one with steroids. Same with the mind.

[Carl-Richard]

9 hours ago, Davino said:

You're comparing apples with oranges here. And you were so outraged by me comparing Ketamine with Pyrazolam lol

Crack and armodafinil both have dopamine reuptake inhibition. Ketamine and pyrozalam do not have such similarities. Crack and armodafinil is comparing a small apple vs a big apple (with some glaze; norepinephrine and serotonin reuptake inhibition). Ketamine and pyrazolam is like comparing a carrot and a cauliflower (except you shouldn't eat them together as then you can easily "become" a vegetable; i.e., have a vegetable overdose).

Edited 16 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Carl-Richard]

11 hours ago, Ramasta9 said:

I am still mastering being on 100% fruit but from my past experiences it does make me feel the best on all levels, mind, body and spirit.

I feel good sometimes while fasted. The question is, on average or in total, how much of your diet is fruit and how much is not? I'm trying to gauge what kind of diet is a sustainable "middle".

[Ramasta9]

8 hours ago, Davino said:

Yes, I see what you mean, thanks for clarifying, but I still hold my position.

No natural runner will run faster than one with steroids. Same with the mind.

That's cool, experiment all you want, hope you find clarity and balance  

I may argue tho, if a tigers chasing you, I bet you'll outrun the steroids  

I've seen some superhuman stuff in my life when you really need it. 

 

[Carl-Richard]

19 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

That's cool, experiment all you want, hope you find clarity and balance  

I may argue tho, if a tigers chasing you, I bet you'll outrun the steroids  

I've seen some superhuman stuff in my life when you really need it. 

Besides, mind is counterintuitive. I'm the first person to say bio-psycho-social - it's all connected, but they are also not the same. Maybe more juice doesn't equal more gains for the mind. In fact, testosterone is good for mental functioning in the right doses, but too much impedes it.

@Davino In fact, you might actually question whether you should try "optimizing" (super-dose) testosterone as well if you're under the conception that more dopaminergic transmission is better (as testosterone is also dopaminergic), unless you care about being fertile I guess.

Edited 17 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Ramasta9]

5 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

I feel good sometimes while fasted. The question is, on average or in total, how much of your diet is fruit and how much is not? I'm trying to gauge what kind of diet is a sustainable "middle".

I feel i already answered this in the previous comment but I'd say on most days its 80 - 100% fruit.

3 - 4 days a week I enjoy a hearty salad with more variety of greens and vegetables and some nuts / seeds.

I go through phases though, with how my body feels day by day, intuition, environment, seasons, stress ect...

 

 

 

[Ramasta9]

5 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Besides, mind is counterintuitive. I'm the first person to say bio-psycho-social - it's all connected, but they are also not the same. Maybe more juice doesn't equal more gains for the mind. In fact, testosterone is good for mental functioning in the right doses, but too much impedes it.

This lifestyle definitely makes you more attune to the feminine, and for me personally i was always angry when i ate meat and animal products and severely out of touch with my feminine side, but yes too much for some people can be a hindrance too. Vegetables would be more masculine.

Animal products for me, i find too masculine / aggressive, too much testosterone. I had a lot of kidney pains personally from animal protein.

This book goes into detail how we develop puberty prematurely due to animal protein and excess testosterone from hormones they produce. That today children go into such phases much earlier than in the past and develop abnormally and sexual urges come before the child is even mature. https://archive.org/details/returntobrainofe0000gynn

I also know its related to the modern chemicals and toxins in our environments but yeah if you ever get a chance to read that book, i think you will enjoy it because its more scientific-based and less spiritual woo-woo.

 

[Carl-Richard]

21 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

I feel i already answered this in the previous comment but I'd say on most days its 80 - 100% fruit.

3 - 4 days a week I enjoy a hearty salad with more variety of greens and vegetables and some nuts / seeds.

I was uncertain on the exact measurements (and still am).

So if the math adds up, 3 - 4 days is 80-100% fruit and 3 - 4 days it's greens, veggies, nuts, seeds (and maybe some fruit)?

Edited 17 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Ramasta9]

34 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

I was uncertain on the exact measurements (and still am).

So if the math adds up, 3 - 4 days is 80-100% fruit and 3 - 4 days it's greens, veggies, nuts, seeds (and maybe some fruit)?

Sorry for the confusion.

80 - 100% fruit almost every single day. Occasionally i would fast on Saturday or Sunday to give my body a break.

3 - 4 days (out of the week). I enjoy other raw vegetables, greens, sprouts, nuts, seeds ect... Usually a big hearty salad (last meal).

In general.

Edited 17 hours ago by Ramasta9

[Davino]

5 hours ago, Ramasta9 said:

I may argue tho, if a tigers chasing you, I bet you'll outrun the steroids  

The body is a chemical lab that may get triggered by intense survival situations.

[Davino]

10 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Crack and armodafinil both have dopamine reuptake inhibition. Ketamine and pyrozalam do not have such similarities. Crack and armodafinil is comparing a small apple vs a big apple (with some glaze; norepinephrine and serotonin reuptake inhibition). Ketamine and pyrazolam is like comparing a carrot and a cauliflower (except you shouldn't eat them together as then you can easily "become" a vegetable; i.e., have a vegetable overdose).

Don't bias your analysis to what they have in common and include aso what they differ in. 

1. Mechanism of action

Modafinil: Mildly modulates dopamine, norepinephrine, and histamine; slow, regulated effect.

Crack: Causes a massive, rapid dopamine spike by blocking reuptake.

2. Onset & duration

Modafinil: Gradual onset; long-lasting (hours).

Crack: Near-instant onset; very short-lived (minutes).

3. Euphoria

Modafinil: Minimal to none at therapeutic doses.

Crack: Intense euphoria (“rush”).

4. Addiction potential

Modafinil: Low; not considered strongly reinforcing.

Crack: Extremely high; among the most addictive substances.

5. Tolerance & crash

Modafinil: Little tolerance; no or light crash.

Crack: Rapid tolerance; severe crash with depression and exhaustion.

6. Health risks

Modafinil: Generally well-tolerated.

Crack: High risk of overdose, psychosis, cardiovascular damage, and death.

[Davino]

5 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

In fact, you might actually question whether you should try "optimizing" (super-dose) testosterone as well if you're under the conception that more dopaminergic transmission is better (as testosterone is also dopaminergic), unless you care about being fertile I guess.

I'm just experimenting, I don't know what the right cocktail is for me right now.

[Carl-Richard]

@Davino

"Sanctified crack" is obviously hyperbole, but the point is that we're talking about dopaminergic drugs. Calling it "nootropics" or "narcotics" is only a question of how you want to tweak the parameters; dose, frequency, modality, duration. If you mega-dose modafinil every single hour or microdose crack (or let's introduce oral slow-release cocaine pills; or let's remove the hyperbole completely: Adderall slow-release pills), truly not much difference (unless you want to show me right now that individual cocaine/Adderall molecules selectively kill off receptors any more than modafinil molecules and it's not a dose-response relationship). Maybe modafinil is a more "posh" Adderall, a bit less powerful pound per pound and maybe slightly less annoying side effects, but that's about it.

The argument is not necessarily "jump on Adderall, it's the same", but it's more like "you're already in the same game; nootropics = narcotics".

Edited 12 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Davino]

@Carl-Richard Yes, I see your point and it's valid.

 

In my stack there's much more than dopaminergic drugs though