Science Podcast Appearance Coming Soon

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, gengar said:

I don't know their channel but from what I hear from you I bet its conformist to the strand of Roganesque "mind freeing", "anti-government" line of content that's been popular since Covid.

No, they do a lot of good openminded interviews of scientists and academics.

They are good folk. Very openminded but not in a stupid way. They are very easy to talk to, which I enjoyed. They sometimes say silly things, but they are very open to being corrected and shown alternative ways of seeing it.

I thought they would be more difficult. Which I prepared myself for. But it turned into a breeze.

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[Leo Gura]

I'm actually working on a new line of understanding in which Absolute Evil can exist as a domain of Consciousness. But this is not stuff like human beings or evil grizzly bears. This is an insane trans-human domain of Consciousness full of actual monstrosities, demons, and literal Absolute Evil. Basically Consciousness can imagine Hell realms. I don't want to exclude that from Infinity. But I am opposed to the conventional human notion of evil humans doing bad things.

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[gengar]

59 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I'm actually working on a new line of understanding in which Absolute Evil can exist as a domain of Consciousness. But this is not stuff like human beings or evil grizzly bears. This is an insane trans-human domain of Consciousness full of actual monstrosities, demons, and literal Absolute Evil. Basically Consciousness can imagine Hell realms. I don't want to exclude that from Infinity. But I am opposed to the conventional human notion of evil humans doing bad things.

I've been hoping you'd get into that realm. How could it ever be Absolute though? how could a specific hellrealm or an individual demon be Absolute evil? you could always think up something more evil than that, so it must be finite/relative.

Just like a heaven filled with doves, bliss and/or maidens wouldn't be the Absolute Good.

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No, they do a lot of good openminded interviews of scientists and academics.

They are good folk. Very openminded but not in a stupid way. They are very easy to talk to, which I enjoyed. They sometimes say silly things, but they are very open to being corrected and shown alternative ways of seeing it.

Cool.

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[UnbornTao]

Absolute Cinema Awakening.

[Leo Gura]

32 minutes ago, gengar said:

How could it ever be Absolute though? how could a specific hellrealm or an individual demon be Absolute evil?

No individual monstrosity would be absolute. I mean a pure abstract, formless Evil that is Absolute. Like a polar opposite of Absolute Good.

Imagine Evil as a pure formless abstraction. It exists solely to inflict suffering on others. This Evil would spawn finite monstrosities to do its bidding.

If you can imagine it, it can exist.

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[UnbornTao]

25 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

No individual monstrosity would be absolute. I mean a pure abstract, formless Evil that is Absolute. Like a polar opposite of Absolute Good.

Imagine Evil as a pure formless abstraction. It exists solely to inflict suffering on others.

Then it is something.

It is abstract because it is not concrete. So it is a form, just not one with precisely-defined boundaries.

And you just said it is like an opposite of something else - that is not that same thing.

Absolute Nonsense.

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[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, UnbornTao said:

Then it is something.

Yes, it is pure Evil.

[UnbornTao]

21 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Yes, it is pure Evil.

Yeah, that's the point

[Leo Gura]

35 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Absolute Nonsense

If you refuse to imagine Pure Evil then it will not exist.

[Leo Gura]

It will be interesting to see how much shit their own audience gives them just for having me on their podcast.

I'd expect a sizable backlash. Especially since they did not let me read my important disclaimer. I don't expect their audience to understand me nearly as well as they understood me. But perhaps I am wrong. Their audience are not mainstream science people. Still, the stuff I said should be too much for them to stomach.

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[UnbornTao]

11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

If you refuse to imagine Pure Evil then it will not exist.

Yeah, so it is not absolute.

It's like my joke with the Absolute Cinema Awakening. You should've added absolute in quotation marks.

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Yeah, so it is not absolute.

It's like my joke with the Absolute Cinema Awakening. You should've added absolute in quotation marks.

Your pinky is Absolute.

[UnbornTao]

38 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Your pinky is Absolute.

When you say that something does not exist when it is not imagined - referring to a distinction - you are speaking of a relative thing. It is recognized only through contrast with that which it is not.

At this point, you could take any relative thing and qualify it as Absolute - Absolute Pain Awakening, for example - which would be silly. The thing exists precisely by virtue of being relative. Pain is not absolute.

Absolute (Relative Thing, Process, Activity) Awakening.

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[Leo Gura]

@UnbornTao It's not silly at all. It is part of the mindfuckery of Infinity.

Yes, there is such a thing as Absolute Blue.

This is beyond typical nonduality.

Infinity does very werid shit at higher levels.

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[UnbornTao]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@UnbornTao It's not silly at all. It is part of the mindfuckery of Infinity.

Yes, there is such a thing as Absolute Blue.

This is beyond typical nonduality.

I don't know, Rick. Like with the multiple infinities, or the "beyond absolute" bit. It's all relative. Are you sure you're not talking about a state?

Absolute Dis-may-a Awakening.

Also, what makes you think I'm talking about nonduality, or coming from that stance?

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[Leo Gura]

30 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

I don't know, Rick. Like with the multiple infinities, or the "beyond absolute" bit. It's all relative. Are you sure you're not talking about a state?

Everything is a state. You are always in a state.

Yes, I am saying Infinity has entirely new dimensions of it that it discovers about itself.

Infinity is infinitely profound.

30 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Also, what makes you think I'm talking about nonduality, or coming from that stance?

Because you seem to be limiting the Absolute to formlessness only. Which is a common mistake nondual people make.

[gengar]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Imagine Evil as a pure formless abstraction.

Isn't there only one formless abstraction; Infinity itself? how can a formless abstraction have the "Form" of evil?

You have classified God as Infinite Good(and not evil). Would God/Good be stronger than Evil, or do you propose a Zoroastrian style of metaphysics where they are in a perfect balance for eternity?

[Rilles]

Bruh I can't with this thread

[gengar]

55 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Because you seem to be limiting the Absolute to formlessness only. Which is a common mistake nondual people make.

Isn't it that the Absolute is either formless nothingness or an Infinity of forms(The entire infinite set of all forms), but never a single, distinct thing?

How could there be an Absolute Blue?

However it's crazy you mentioned that because one time on a psych trip, I closed my eyes and it kept getting more blue and more blue until I couldn't handle it anymore (and I opened my eyes) and it felt crazy that It could even get more blue than what I normally would imagine as pure blue.

 

[gengar]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Your pinky is Absolute.

It's only absolute in the sense that its essence is reality/consciousness, but as a finite thing, it's relative.

In the same way that a pinky is a human, but what constitutes a human is not just a pinky.