Key to getting rich

[cistanche_enjoyer]

14 hours ago, bazera said:

For me the reason is that if I do that, I won't have to wage-slave my way into 30s, 40s, 50s, etc. And be free with my own time and resources.

What do you plan to do when you will be hypothetically free with your time and resources?

Is there anything that really matters that you cannot do already now? 

Since you are talking about “infinite value”, the only thing that could be described that way is God. Understanding and loving God does not require any money at all. In fact, the more money you make, the more corrupt you have to be, and hence further from God.

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What do you plan to do when you will be hypothetically free with your time and resources?

I'd like to have a free time just to live without pressure and expectations, I think lots of money would allow that, at least for some time. 

So, the first thing is less stress and anxiety, because daily job comes with those two.

Second, I'd pursue my own creative projects more freely, because when you work full-time and have some other things going as well, it's very hard to do that, realistically.

Pursuing spirituality more seriously. Now I can't just take a month off from work to go and meditate for a month straight. I can't just go and take psychedelic journeys freely because what if those destabilize me and I'm not able to work for some time? It would create issues, maybe I lose my job which supports me and my family, you know, that kind of stuff.

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Understanding and loving God does not require any money at all. In fact, the more money you make, the more corrupt you have to be, and hence further from God.

Yeah but to get to understanding God when you have 0 idea what that refers to, and if you aren't genetically gifted that you see God by default, you need to design a lifestyle that allows it, you must not be in a survival pressure cooker all the time. You can be, and still pursue it, I don't say it's not possible, we're just talking about in what ways having lots of money would make things easier logistically at least.

Edited yesterday at 02:31 AM by bazera

[cistanche_enjoyer]

18 hours ago, bazera said:

You can be, and still pursue it, I don't say it's not possible

Well I’d argue it’s possible. And more likely actually. Many other well-known and respected spiritual teachers also say this, for example Lahiri Mahasaya.

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24 minutes ago, cistanche_enjoyer said:

Well I’d argue it’s possible. And more likely actually. Many other well-known and respected spiritual teachers also say this, for example Lahiri Mahasaya.

@cistanche_enjoyer So you are telling me that it's more likely to awaken using 1-2 hour of Kriya Yoga (according to Lahiri) while you handle family, fulltime job, debt, responsibilities, house-chores, kids, etc, then to awaken with all the time in the world, all the resources that you'd need, and desire to know Truth?

Edited 15 hours ago by bazera

[cistanche_enjoyer]

@bazera exactly! 

Be open to the possibility that awakening is radically different from what you are imagining it could be like.

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Be open to the possibility that awakening is radically different from what you are imagining it could be like.

It's not just Awakening, right? Financial independence isn't only linked to Awakening for me, maybe not at all. I don't really plan to earn lots of money to be able to Awaken or something, I already got resources to do that. People have done it with few resources, as you said.

It's about providing for myself and my family without too much survival pressure-cooker stress.

But again, there must be better and more effective ways to Awaken (even for temporarily) then doing 1 hour of Kriya Yoga for 20 years, from what I've observed from other people's experiences.

Edited 15 hours ago by bazera