What spiritual teachers actually teach Solipsism

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Mellowmarsh said:

This is all a human construct

What is a human construct exactly?

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

This is the ultimate neo-advaita video IMO.  Hilarious.
 

 

Oh god i love that one! Best ever. 

Edited yesterday at 06:54 AM by Inliytened1

[Mellowmarsh]

4 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

You're not going to be able to reason with these people. Its just "there's no you". There isn't anything. 

I understand that you can’t reason this with others because humans have been conditioned to believe the fiction of knowledge. They’ve been conditioned to believe conceptual language is real including the belief they are a human being separate from reality a cat or a dog.

 

They don’t seem to question their identity at all, they don’t seem to want to ask themselves who told me I am so and so, and so on.

But then some do question where their identity came from, and those people who did question it, died properly. Most people don’t die properly, they still hang on to their identity and even call that identity Enlightenment.

 

James is right about what he’s talking about.

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I understand that you can’t reason this with others because humans have been conditioned to believe the fiction of knowledge. They’ve been conditioned to believe conceptual language is real including the belief they are a human being separate from reality a cat or a dog.

 

They don’t seem to question their identity at all, they don’t seem to want to ask themselves who told me I am so and so, and so on.

But then some do question where their identity came from, and those people who did question it, died properly. Most people don’t die properly, they still hang on to their identity and even call that identity Enlightenment.

 

James is right about what he’s talking about.

I am still on the fence about James. He's had some awakenings but he got too wrapped up in neo-advaitan crap. He has spent a lot of time on Phil's forum where the brainwashing runs rampant.

[Mellowmarsh]

8 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

What is a human construct exactly?

It’s an idea arising as a mind. The mind is like liquid thought, but thought cannot be held in mind no more than liquid water can be held by the hand and then be claimed I’ve got it.

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Mellowmarsh said:

It’s an idea arising as a mind. The mind is like liquid thought, but thought cannot be held in mind no more than liquid water can be held by the hand and then be claimed I’ve got it.

You didnt address my question 

[Joseph Maynor]

I didn't realize there is a Part 2.  I love it.
 

 

[Mellowmarsh]

13 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I am still on the fence about James. He's had some awakenings but he got too wrapped up in neo-advaitan crap. He has spent a lot of time on Phil's forum where the brainwashing runs rampant.

Honestly, I don’t think this has anything to do with spending time on nonduality forums, or with gurus and sages of all ages, it’s just something that is inherently within the mind already that is able to recognise its illusory nature. 
It’s also able to sense that there’s no escaping the mind or transcending the mind, because to be human is to be conscious you exist conceptually, and that cannot be undone for the human.

Humans don’t behave in an unconscious state like nature does, human life is a synthetic reality that is believed to be real, and humans are stuck in this synthetic system that has been of their own making.

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[Mellowmarsh]

7 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

You didnt address my question 

I addressed it the only way I knew how. Would you like me to address it another way? Do you have an idea how that other way might appeal to you? 

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Humans don’t behave in an unconscious state like nature does, human life is a synthetic reality that is believed to be real, and humans are stuck in this synthetic system that has been of their own making.

No that's not correct.  There is one Consciousness. One Mind. As I said earlier.  Humans are a limited version of this.  There consciousness is limited but they can awaken as well. 

[James123]

53 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

No that's not what enlightenment is.  Thats a concept. 

Concepts belongs to mind.

45 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

How do you know the body exists?

Body knows and talks.

42 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

But then …somehow the human brain, or mind, emerged from the unborn unconscious in a way that appeared to construct an experience known as a sense of self awareness,  that then claimed ownership of this sense of self awareness.

It is not You.

 

35 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

You're not going to be able to reason with these people. Its just "there's no you". There isn't anything. 

You guys have no idea what enlightenment or spirituality is. It is not there is no you. And because it is not an idea belief or experience. 

It is, You is not the body and mind. Even, there is no you belongs to body and mind.

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[Mellowmarsh]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

No that's not correct.  There is one Consciousness. One Mind. As I said earlier.  Humans are a limited version of this.  There consciousness is limited but they can awaken as well. 

This is your belief or knowledge so to speak. Which of course is your prerogative to hold to.

I have absolutely no argument with your truth because it’s your own truth which is unique to you personally.

However, what is your belief or truth there, is not mine here.

My truth here, is that the entire cosmos is unconscious unborn. And that it’s only the mind that is born, which is illusory.

 

[Mellowmarsh]

4 minutes ago, James123 said:

It is not You.

Agreed.👍 

 

How absolutely boundless and free and unlimited is that not you. . ❤️💯 So awesomely beautiful. 

 

 

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

My truth here, is that the entire cosmos is unconscious unborn. And that it’s only the mind that is born, which is illusory.

 

 What are your thoughts on physics and the universe? Does it exist or is it just Mind?

[Mellowmarsh]

And this is why you suffer, because you think it’s your suffering, when it’s not your suffering, at all.

And just as suffering and pain, or pleasure arise and falls away , so too does the thought of ownership of those experiences.

 

 

[Mellowmarsh]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

 What are your thoughts on physics and the universe? Does it exist or is it just Mind?

There’s no “ Your”  thoughts. 
 

Theres thoughts that are a physical process, the chemistry and physics of life are functioning always on an unconscious level of awareness. 

[Inliytened1]

16 minutes ago, James123 said:

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You guys have no idea what enlightenment or spirituality is. It is not there is no you. And because it is not an idea belief or experience. 

It is, You is not the body and mind. Even, there is no you belongs to body and mind.

We have no idea. And yet you are wrong even in this feeble claim  

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

This is why I despise this neo-advaitan garbage.   You should be able to embrace your ego.   And you know what? You do.

Oh! They just unconsciously do so. 

I suppose they perceive themselves egoless.

Cannot kill or get rid of something that never existed in the first place

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Mellowmarsh said:

There’s no “ Your”  thoughts. 
 

Theres thoughts that are a physical process, the chemistry and physics of life are functioning always on an unconscious level of awareness. 

Jesus you must have come straight from Phil's forum too.  You cannot answer basic questions. 

[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Jesus you must have come straight from Phil's forum too.  You cannot answer basic questions. 

Okay, but I do my best.

I’ll endeavour to try harder to give you the answers you prefer to hear. Keep letting me know I don’t know how to answer your basic questions, and I’ll do my best to auto correct them so you can understand them too.