The dating section in this forum is pure waffle verbal conformity brain rot garbage

[Optimized Life]

"Pickup" 

"burn through the karma"

"get through the orange phase" 

"Dating is so much easier for women ... average woman on tinder can get so much sex, and she's only a fucking 5/10 genetics!" 

"Did are parents have it easier" blahblahblablah.

All of this is pure fucking, futile, brain rot, valueless garbage, buzz words, online lingo brainwashing

Like NONE of that matters

Why would you think about ANY Of this, it's all fucking nonsense. 

I dont think about "burning thorugh karma"

I dont think about what my parents did or what an average woman has 

I don't intellectualize dating anymore or discuss it and debate it

WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? 

Just 

1. Look your best

2. Get the best logistics you possibly can 

3. Approach and practice as much as you can 

4. Keep going 

5. Work hard 

6. Dont linger on forums and talk shit about this and that, average women this and that 

7. Enjoy life, take action, have sex, date ... until your dick stops working, because my libido is as high, if not much higher than it was at 19, nothings changed

8. You just DO YOUR BEST. You CANT compare your dating life to another man, let alone a fucking woman lol? Life is chaotic and unfair, everyone has different genetics, logistics, work schedule. You just DO YOUR BEST AND SHUT THE FUCK UP, IM FUCKNG SICK OF THESE DUM FUCKING BASTARDS THAT NEVER LEARN, I LEARNT TO SHUT THE FUCK UP YEARS AGO ABOUT THIS SHIT

WHY JUST FUCKING WHY 

this forum is so painful to associate with

I still use it because like i've said before, the journal has a good structure 

"Spiral dynamics, burning through karma, deadly sins" blahblah 

All these fucking words, are just pure fucking conformity 

Just stop thinking, stop talking, just fuck women its not complicated 

Edited January 5 by Optimized Life

[Optimized Life]

BTW WHAT IS THAT WHEN u commpare and complaint about how "an average 5/10 on tinder has it easy"

DID U NOT LEARN 

DID U NOT INTROSPECT?

DID UNOT LISTEN TO LEO WHEN HE TOLD U TO STOP PROJECTING AND COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW "WOMEN HAVE IT EASY, ITS SO EASY FOR WOMEN"

DID U NOT INTROSPECT HOW THAT VERBAL DIAREEAH IS REALLY JUST A THOUGH PATTERN SHAPED BY THE ENVY AND INSECURITY WITHIN YOU, ALSO INTROSPECT HOW IT DOES ABSOLUTELY NO BENEFIT FOR YOURSELF, OR ANY OTHER GUY ON THE FORUM BY TLAKING ABOUT THAT GARBAGE

IM NOT FUCKNG HERE TO PLAY AORUND, THATS NOT MY STYLE OF LEADERSHIP

IM NOT TOLERATING BULLSHIT ANYMORE

U COULD CALL ME A HYPOCRITE, IM SURE I HAD THE SAME THOUGHTS YEARS AGO, BUT THIS IS WHAT I NEEDED TO, I NEED A HARD KICK THE ASS, I NEEDED THE BRUTAL TRUTH TO COME OUT. 

DO "AVERAGE WOMEN" HAVE IT EASIER??? 

NO THEY FUCKING DONT, AND ITS ALSO WAY MORE COMPLICATED THAN HOW U THINK IT IS "SEX QUANITTY AND EASE = EASIER LIFE" 

But Sex is much less about quantity and frequencyfor women, and quanitfy with what type of guys? what quality of interactions? It's a lot more brutal than most guys think, it's not the envious fantasy of ease they project, from my intuition, most peoples lives are fucked, men and women, life is war, life is hell for like 95% of the global population, and a losing battle, so shut the fuck up, and fight 

1. Aging is much faster and much more brutal for most women (I personally like milfs but they're socially undervalued, also not the norm since most women dont have the genetics + healthy/stable lifestyle to become milfs, being an older mid or below woman in society is brutal )
2. Being average and below looks women = in many ways more brutal than an average man because there's nothing they can compensate with 
3. Majrority of women do not want to use tinder globally
4. Ideas about dating are extremely biased towards USA based dating 
5. Many women can get sex easy but its not satisfying, most men suck at sex ... many men barely even have a sex drive to begin with, most men are out of shape, fat, lazy, they dont even have the work ethic to make a woman cum, let alone hit the gym or quit alcohol or have good style or be an interesting and magnetic person in general)
6. Even most good looking and or rich men are boring, numb, emotionally flat, predictable, dull, and bad at sex. 
7. Most women are super insecure about themselves (but i suppose many men are too) 

Also u gotta imagine what its like to be a mid or below woman and get fucked 

You're getting used and fucked, then as soon as the guy comes, he feels bored and regretful that he even did it ..

This happened to me when I was like 20, and I realized any woman below approx 6.5-7 isn't even worth the effort 

I had like a 6/10 girl try invite me to come see her to fuck, we almost fucked simply because she approached me and were staying in a same party hostel, i was horny at the time so i though i'll fuck her why not, no effort, but as soon as she requested effort i just couldn't get myself to do it 

That girl "could get infinite sex on tinder im so jealous" 

Except she has to deal with either unpassionate short lived sex from a guy whos just horny and isn't even that into her, or needy keen sex from a low level guy she doesnt want. 

But dumb guys on these dating forums cant see the pov of what its like to be a mid woman, 

Edited January 5 by Optimized Life

[felixk_priv]

Fuck my life . That's quite a summary 

[oOo]

It’s the whole forum in general.

With the exception of the Mental Health, Serious Emotional Issues section.

But you can use that as an analogy actually.

As humans, most of us are emotionally driven even if we say otherwise that by and large defines the culture, as that’s what this is, it’s not a research community, it’s not on a community centered around the search for truth. It’s just a bunch of everyday people like myself coming together to centre around a feeling for where it’s search can begin, not end, but at least begin, irrespective of the level someone is on. For those that protest they’re not emotionally driven especially on this site, I would love to know what their long term exponential analysis was on their choice for posting and every post thereafter. Naturally, we will find no such analyses. Humans are crappy thinkers, humility is just as difficult for us. 
 

Even though we will find no perfect reasoning on the site, many people have positive intentions but all of us are caught in our own consciousness feedback loop the same way people are stuck in the noted section of the forum dealing in issues in personal well-being. To improve the forum, I would make slight incremental adjustments to the system that improves empathy, that is usually far more effective at improving reasoning rather than focusing directly on reasoning itself which is usually too tiresome for most of us 😅, including empathy, meaning blunt changes in rules or adding more warnings is usually far less effective than an environment that naturally fosters prosocial and more self-reflective behaviour. For anyone that is more interested in more direct training concerning any area here I will be going in depth on the science I’ve pretty comprehensively put together on each of the areas here concerning what focus one may like to explore March-April 1st.

It’s fine to feel a bit of anger, it’s healthy, and this is the right area of the forum to express it then follow it up with wherever else you believe you can make a difference on your own appraisals. Being caught in any ideological vacuum is tiresome for any balanced person, including protests against the people stuck in the ideological vacuum itself. So make sure you measure your own body lengths before taking to skinny dipping. 
 

All in all, this is a “vibe centric” forum and not much more, there simply isn’t the infrastructure for it, and although that can be a recipe for many positive outcomes, like Facebook, many negative outcomes can result as well. Thankfully, and this is sincerely a good thing, this site is much more bland than Facebook with the absence of features like the like/dislike button genuinely adding to the authenticity of commentary, even if that absence also contributes in part to the lack of putting in any effort towards adequate systematising of knowledge. The latter should never be expected however at the broader level outside of say more socially centric value based relationships where the inherent value of the information being shared itself is the catalyst for the relationship, this is where the forum may be more well-rounded towards and where how people behave on the forum becomes its own filter and funnel for determining who is right to share those kinds of discussions with, which a solid group always caters for. The problem however is when the ratio between credible and less credible information being shared becomes skewed towards the wrong end, especially where criticality and longer range thinking lacks towards the end of reaching into becoming the very ideological vacuum that reflects far too much congestion in the collective not just individual consciousness feedback loop of a give human system and the ideologies it’s unconscious mind moves the rest of the system with. The forum is quaint, and almost cute, that to imagine it much more would be to bestow on it the responsibility it was never meant to handle, while on the other end, it does just enough, to maintain its image. That’s stability, not the inevitable vacuum it will need pulling from, the cost of its present equilibrium though is that it both enables all kinds of people to join and influence the forum and disables people too far on extremes including less people that are more devoted towards truth without the ideological pressure hose. “Vibe centricity” isn’t just fluff though, as much as it is therefore more likely to be catering towards people from all walks of life along with taking the good and the bad with that, because it is a personal development forum, and because of Leo’s own value adherence, it autocorrects by maintaining that described stability, otherwise the forum simply wouldn’t have lasted as long as it has. Yes “vibe centric” also equals “vibe equilibrium” and therefore makes the system itself individualistically self absorbed in this regard, the very lack of seeking to design the system better forces the intelligence within it to only improve via autocorrections where collaborative efforts either fail or are otherwise non- existent; this very grooming however is it’s own double edged sword, where the dismissive avoidant kind of ‘individualism’ and hands off approach defines its own inevitable future exit sign when it’s action as any one kind of funnel, of whatever kind, has reached its conclusion. Any slogan of ‘teaching’ the forum provides is hardly emphasised through any meaningful action and it’s very dismissiveness acts as its own protection from critique or dialogue that genuinely leads to meaningful progress. Irrespectively, this described autocorrection makes the forum at least one tier higher then compared to any extremist religion and given where humanity is, and the many difficulties inherent in avoiding all the kinds of corruptions within any given system of humans, combined with the age of the forum itself, thats a history lesson that shouldn’t be trifled with, the forum has so far stood the test of time. There are many ways in which the forum could be made incredibly worse, but relative to its developmental level, the very dismissive and shallow relationship it has with subjects on many areas, combined with its individualism, becomes its own self protection from steeping into auto-regression, or at the very least especially from any auto-regressive tendencies that last for too long that it becomes a systemic problem. Irrespectively, this pattern becomes its own collective ego that the environment becomes groomed on, by and complicit to, and whether or not the pattern continues to positively autocorrect indefinitely versus reach a final dissolving end to the forum itself becsuse of the ego becoming its own systemic issue thats become too big of a problem, is an open question at this stage, and possibly, many stages thereafter.

But yeah, it’s why I don’t presently see any long term future wherein I start posting in the regular section of the forum, even though I genuinely would like to help more people in the Mental Health, Serious Emotional Issues section. For any environment we choose to place ourselves in however, the choice implies we’ve accepted its design flaws or have at least thought about them and have taken responsibility to the point where future actions equal future sovereignty not just for ourselves but also respect for the environment we decide to be a part of.

Best wishes @Optimized Life.

[MuadDib]

@oOo

I understand the critique, but it’s presented as a totalizing diagnosis (“the forum is vibe-centric”) with jargon-heavy, unfalsifiable framing where disagreement gets treated as evidence. That makes it hard to engage productively, because it shuts down the dialogue it claims to encourage and implicitly preframes disagreement as a personal deficiency.

Separate question, is it true you’ve been banned three times for threatening or unsafe behaviour toward forum members? If yes, how do you reconcile that history with claims about empathy, boundaries, and community health? I’m asking as someone concerned about people’s safety and peace of mind.

Also, I'm curious what your motivations are for being here. Is it truth-seeking, the “hot witch girlfriend” meme, both, or something else? Vibes and truth seeking aren’t mutually exclusive.

[Optimized Life]

@UnbornTao Please remove MaudDib's comment as I consider that he's spreading hearsay and rumours, due to some sort of weird ego projection or drama

I have not been banned for the forum once, even 3 times for threatening behaviour towards forum members. 

I may have got in heated arguments (although barely in recent history as i am simply on the journal section 99% of the time), , however I have not specifically threatened, stalked, harassed or risked the safety of any member ever. I do not have any particular interest in any specific member, I barely remember who anyone specifcially even is, I literaly live in a different continent to these members, many of which probably own a fucking gun, im a fucking nobody lol, why are you talking about safety, this is a fucking forum lmao. 

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Notice how also i do not check out peoples profile, particularly womens profiles. I almost never check their profiles, I dont watch them or anyone, only if someone in particular makes an interesting post that i really agree or resonate with, i might once in a while check them out. But other than that i have no idea who the fuck basically anyone here is, and i dont care, i barely have the energy, money, time, resources to even give 0.1% of my energy towards being a "threat" to anyone lol, you must be a paranoid piece of shit man, go live in fucking south africa where people are actually a threat, and you'll realize how rediculous and insane you sound, you must've been way too coiled in life lol, does a kitten threaten you with its little paws?

If i ever do comment on the main section I'm probably being silly and stupid, making jokes, because i have a fucking personality

Also @UnbornTao Please block MaudDib and from my account so that he cannot access or comment on my profile, I am uncomfortable with member whos making up bs. 

If the mods want to ban me that's fine, go ahead, i dont need this place, its just somewhere to journal, I dont mind, but it until they decide to that if they want, I will not have members spreading super dark and weird hearsay rumors about me that are not true. 

In psychology, there is a known principle called Belief Preservation bias, this is enough reason why in law liable can be a criminal offence. Once a rumour is spread, no matter how false about someone, and even after that rumoured individual becomes vindicated with evidence, people continue to be influenced by the initial rumour, and see that person differently. Now i dont give a shit about this place anyway, but I just dont like the principle of what you have just done, I will not tolerate it. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Optimized Life

[Optimized Life]

3 hours ago, MuadDib said:

Also, I'm curious what your motivations are for being here. Is it truth-seeking, the “hot witch girlfriend” meme, both, or something else? Vibes and truth seeking aren’t mutually exclusive.

Dude .. you cannot try and read into someone over 1 single fuckng rant. 

I was in rant mode it was an improvised rant, i think and write extremely fast and my brain jsut does this

99% of the time I aam just ssimply here to take accountability and journal my metrics to improve health, make more money, get out of the shitty circumstances I was born into, and live a better life, enjoy my life. 

I use this mostly as an accountabily and metrics tracking journal (Te journal) and also to learn and share self improvement mindsets and ideas. 

That is all i do 99% of the time, even if i get heated once in a while. 

[UnbornTao]

@Optimized Life Hi there. He hasn't violated forum guidelines and is presenting a reasonable take. Disagreement is not an offense. 

Also, breathe, man. Everything's okay.