thmanoy

Is success in dating mostly psychological?

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The tittle is just an observation of me after 5 years of game.

When I am successful in game, it's either because one of the following happening:

  • I almost don't care about results at all. Then, after 2-3 months of this state at most, I will meet one or two girls to have sex with.
  • I do care about results. I am failing with no success at all and it hurts but I try, trying to force confidence on myself. Then, again after 2-3 months of zero success, I will have some success. Then, I will have a consecutive streak of successes for some time. (Stopped doing this approach because it's toxic to myself and to my friends).

Not saying that social skills, looks and other stuff don't matter, but without one of the above happening they feel useless. I have gone a year without a girl because my confidence was in a crisis, even though I theoretically knew what works. It's like girls subconsciously choose me based on my mental state at the time.

Note that I never cared much about technical game, but I was lucky to have a wingman really successful with women that I listened to.

What do other experienced people in game think about this?

Reminds me of two of Owen's teachings. To not have girls in the center of our life and the winner effect.

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Everything in life is psychological even physical activities are psychological

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It is mostly psychological in the sense that you need to have the right psychology to go out and do the consistent action steps to meet girls. If your mindset is one that results in low action-taking then results become impossible.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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Game was invented to emulate the behaviour of high status men that naturally attracted women through their ways of being.

These men - whether they are rich or poor, handsome or not, tall or short - exhibit these behaviours because of their inner psychology.

A man who believes he is a catch will naturally behave a certain way that is aligned with that mindset and women, who are biologically attracted to signals of abundance and strength, are going to notice and gravitate towards that man.

The problem with a lot of inexperienced guys is that telling them that they're enough, sexy and cool and should, therefore, behave as such is not enough to create long lasting change in them.

Therefore you first teach them the behaviours. You teach them technique. You teach them theory. And then as they adopt these behaviours and the world responds favorably as a result, it makes it easier for them to slowly start seeing themselves as being attractive because of the results that they get. 

The end result of game is not the behaviour, it's the mindset they adopt over time. 

The longer you stay in the game, the more your insecure and needy behaviours get punished out of you and the more your abundant and strong behaviours get reinforced. 

Then one day you wake up and you feel like you really ARE the cool guy. You always were. And in fact using pickup techniques takes away from the power of your being.

At this point in my journey, I'm just being myself and women just vibe with it. I dont think in terms of pickup theory anymore. I am enough and that's the goal.

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