Human Mint

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I really enjoy watching this channel.

Here he talks about motors made out of proteins. Yup, that's what bacterias have on their skin, micro-motors. 

What's fascinating is the method to discover those artifacts inside the cell. It is quite messy, brute-forced and slow process. Just imagine all the other structures that can be formed inside a cell that we don't know of. 

Stuff that a engineer would imagine already created by cells. Just complex machinery analogous to some technology we manufacture.

https://youtu.be/VPSm9gJkPxU?si=AjODRdx9qISFnHUL

If you don't know biology, everything inside a cell is made out of proteins. Because it can take any form, any function. It is lego but on steroids. And they are made out of aminoacids, no more and no less. And if I am not mistaken, if specific aminoacides goes togheter they will form a specific shape. Well that is the way all this engineering happens, so intriguing.

And so the scientist go trying to figure out what aminoacids form the proteins of the cell-motor, so technically you could create nano motors made out of proteins.

P.S: the man of that channel is a christian. I always assumed he was an atheist. It doesn't say anything about religion but cool fact.

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6 hours ago, Human Mint said:

everything inside a cell is made out of proteins.

No. Nucleic acids like DNA / RNA inside cell nucleus are made up of nucleotides not proteins.

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@Rishabh R ok profesor, let me rephrase it: everything a cell produces are proteins.:P

It just produces stuff because it can

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1 minute ago, Rishabh R said:

@Human Mint 😂 Yeah according to the Central Dogma of Molecular Biology . 

Start a new thread of the dogma of molecular biology. I just want to talk about freaking nanomotors here

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The amount of iterations in evolution to accumulate to what we have now is staggering. 

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There is infinite time for that to happen, so it should not surprise you. The only kind of explanation for those kind of molecular structures is because why not.

I find it amazing that science is just catching up. Now is the best time to make more discoveries, and they are gonna come non stop for some good years.

I find it irrelevant how science categorize those things, I am happy one can explore that micro world and find it has a mind on its own. But also it is a no mind, weird weird.

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Of course the categorization that science makes is an illusion. But they are good to get you started to a new field, and then to go beyond them.

The best exercise is to find the holographic nature of reality when you do science. So when you see a complex protein you see it as holographic expression, and when you see an insect you see a holographic expression too. So it is about seeing the holons in the parts. 

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On 12/24/2025 at 9:39 PM, Human Mint said:

Start a new thread of the dogma of molecular biology. I just want to talk about freaking nanomotors here

I was not talking about dogma in general but was just responding about the theory called - The Central Dogma of Molecular Biology.

As per nano motors the idea seems cool but already there exists nanoparticles which can be used for drug delivery into the cells even though the field is not fully developed and therefore strong evidence is required for this field.

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1 hour ago, Rishabh R said:

I was not talking about dogma in general but was just responding about the theory called - The Central Dogma of Molecular Biology.

As per nano motors the idea seems cool but already there exists nanoparticles which can be used for drug delivery into the cells even though the field is not fully developed and therefore strong evidence is required for this field.

Ok, but you need to put a name on those things otherwise how you comminicate it? When I say aminoacids I am talking about a general consensus word and you know what I talk about.

How have they discovered those molecules? No idea the exact procedure. Electronic microscopes, and they print a shadow of the molecules on some sort of surface.

How do you make the difference between a protein and a nucleotid? It's completely arbitrary, based on patterns we observe. Like the aminoacids have a radical, but radicals probably are not only present in aminoacids. But how do you keep categorizing the aminoacids? They are also drawn to nucleotids, they connect to them in a specific 1-1 combination, and always the same. And yeah DNA produces proteins, so the whole thing is about proteins in respect to cell world. You were super picky with your answer.

 

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1 hour ago, Human Mint said:

How do you make the difference between a protein and a nucleotide?

By knowing their fundamental structure such as amino acids don't contain phosphorus but nucleotides do. 

Talking about the difference between a protein and nucleotide reminds me of Leo's episode Division vs Unity.

Protein and nucleotides are different structures therefore they are divided but they interconvert (nucleotide to protein) therefore they are united.

Nature is the ultimate paradox that creates then destroys then recreates itself.

It's a paradox embedded so deeply into the naturality of the cell and nature itself.

By the way don't take me answers as attack on yourself but rather I am trying to advance this scientific discussion by making it more Holistic.

Speaking of Holism the Cell is more than sum of it's parts with no individual part dominating over the other.

1 hour ago, Human Mint said:

How have they discovered those molecules? No idea the exact procedure. Electronic microscopes, and they print a shadow of the molecules on some sort of surface.

Even if they print the image or shadow of a molecule that's still observing nature where one can zoom in forever into an infinite Holon that a cell is but unfortunately the instruments have their limits not reality.

Just thinking and typing about this topic makes me connect Leo's work to science so profoundly.

On 12/24/2025 at 8:22 PM, Human Mint said:

It just produces stuff because it can

If cells would be doing their stuff so that they can then they would be infinitely active aka immortal which then leads to cancer.

A cell produces stuff for it's own survival because of it doesn't it dies- Apoptosis or Necrosis.

Apology for a long response but remember that I didn't use an Ai but just thought about it. 

As per my answer I don't think that it's picky. I just agreed to you on the topic of production of proteins.

@Leo Gura What do you think - Is thinking like this the key to Groundbreaking science ?

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On 24.12.2025 at 3:52 PM, Human Mint said:

@Rishabh R ok profesor, let me rephrase it: everything a cell produces are proteins.:P

It also produces CO2 and H2O and other compounds.


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18 hours ago, Rishabh R said:

Talking about the difference between a protein and nucleotide reminds me of Leo's episode Division vs Unity.

Protein and nucleotides are different structures therefore they are divided but they interconvert (nucleotide to protein) therefore they are united.

And also any atom could be converted to another atom if they lose or gain some electrons and protons. So each one is unique but they can transform completely and have completely different properties.

One of my favourites purposes in life is how much can I understand cells. One day I might buy equipment to observe cells and do my own research, and at best make some good discoveries.

This was what I studied before switching to music. Although I didn't studied nearly as much as I would be satisfied.

18 hours ago, Rishabh R said:

Even if they print the image or shadow of a molecule that's still observing nature where one can zoom in forever into an infinite Holon that a cell is but unfortunately the instruments have their limits not reality.

Observing but also using your intelligence to infer an answer based on what you see. Not every answer is explicit, in fact most is implicit. The fisrt photo of the DNA was long ago and there has been a lot of progress ever since. And the video I linked is in a nutshell where we're at today.

I think this is the essence of groundbreaking science + tons of hard work. Yet, at the end is all meaningless. You may discover the cure to cancer and obtain success but in the grand scale it is meaningless. That being said, this is what the world needs most, more curiosity and observation, and passion. 

I said it just produces stuff because it can. At first glance this is true, but it is obviously hyper simplified. Self-regulation was also intended part of that sentence. Again, most of the work done by proteins. There is a signal? A protein involved. Need to send something? A protein involved. Even the signal to die is produced by... a protein. This is because what the DNA is capable of. It could had been any other molecule and there could be life. But DNA + proteins is what has been settled here on earth. Yes, it produces a lot of different molecules aswell, but indirectly. And it relies in other molecules too, they obtain energy from glucose. And the wall is made of fat, or soap.

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