MindFucked With Solipsism

[Someone here]

On 21/12/2025 at 0:50 AM, ExploringReality said:

That's a childish and silly response. Awakening doesn't argue against or neglect the relative survival domain. You're conflating absolute with relative. You fell into the trap of conflations and strawman arguments.

"I don't exist. There is only you .I'm your own mind talking to you ."

[Yeah Yeah]

On 22/12/2025 at 9:50 PM, Someone here said:

"I don't exist. There is only you .I'm your own mind talking to you ."

If you really are me make me say something you're now thinking of ... If you can't then what relative use is arguing about solipsism if others behave how they choose anyways 

[Yeah Yeah]

See Leo would be suggesting it is me that is the only one in this forum since I know I am conscious ... So how do I get god realisation and make all my dreams come true and enter god mode where I can design infinite fun games and have a good time 

[theleelajoker]

10 hours ago, Yeah Yeah said:

See Leo would be suggesting it is me that is the only one in this forum since I know I am conscious ... So how do I get god realisation and make all my dreams come true and enter god mode where I can design infinite fun games and have a good time 

You get it as soon as you stop desiring to get god realization 

[Yeah Yeah]

12 hours ago, theleelajoker said:

You get it as soon as you stop desiring to get god realization 

Heard Alan Watts say a similar thing, which makes seeking feel futile like a snake chasing its own tail. Or this advice sounds like a koan: what is the sound of a one hand clap? Fairly sure most gurus do this intentionally by frustrating the seeker until they no longer need answers and just sit with themselves in the absurdity of it all, then act like that's enlightenment.

Edited yesterday at 02:01 AM by Yeah Yeah

[kavaris]

First youd have to define "you", then youd have to define "not you", in order to then develop the language around those two points, as thats like i say "today im the king of Gwardiinia", well what is Gwardiinia, and why am i saying im this king, what are we n like medieval times suddenly? its like, to make a claim on a new and entire domain/country, is to develop the reasoning (effectively, the language) otherwise we are all laying claim to things for no reasons whatsoever, and that breaks the rules on consistency and trust et caetera. Like, in the world where everything is totally random, laying claims to a leprachauns pot of gold or some fools errand, everyone is without identity cause everyone is, potentially, one of the fools on said fools errands. Like if i say that *im the king and everyone is an asshole*, like what even is that? its not progressive, its not cool, its not really serving myself or anyone else, its like "why am i the asshole, and you get to be the king?" its the same idea,  "why is everyone disgarded, but this mysterious *you* is so special...", that then means creating a language where "you" means something totally different, but we already use *you* to mean things. You just have to hone in on your idea some more, and pull it together, cause it sounds like its more of a recapitulation of what everyone who starts out first says to theirselves, "Wow... im like, the whole reality, and consciousness is like in me, and outside... thats some other thing...", like thats the version you tell yourself, but that makes no sense to tell others. u see wat i mean? if we all now say to eachother (inner, outer, etc, etc stuff) eventually its gonna be like, "duh, duh, duh..." in that—its not progressive enough, and it was never the right language for it in the first place. Like if i say how "im the king of Gwardiinia, im the king of gwardiinia", over nd over.. its gonna start to sound bizzare and strange (or it always sounded strange, but it starts to sound irritating or scary to keep bringing it up like that). Consider that its also more experiential anyway, cause its not like it serves others who dont yet share that exp (exp youre referring to)

Edited yesterday at 02:55 AM by kavaris

[Yeah Yeah]

43 minutes ago, kavaris said:

You just have to hone in on your idea some more, and pull it together,

No offence man but this is why I've personally done my best to quit weed and substances so I can better articulate my ideas clearer; I'm unsure exactly what you're trying to express.

Essentially if there is solipsism as Leo puts it, and I'm the only one in the room (me being conscious I know this) then I'm that king you mention in the land of divine self god-hood, and you all are peasants (fictional props) - Mind you: here I'm using your language, to elaborate on your terms how I'd then be a "special" king in the land of solipsism, while others are not of equal regal quality but fictional characters make believe to strengthen this dreamland.

Mathematically coherent if 1+1 equals 2 then I should also have powers over this dream land as the special kingly god hood and make my dream more into a heavenly paradise or any way I would so choose: beautiful virgins, youth, billion dollars, technology like a personal giant Terrance McKenna style spaceship, an iron man suit, superhero abilities, artistic genius, rockstar fame with concerts and retro vice city sunset lambos near the beach, incredible parties every weekend, nobel prize for world peace, life extension, happiness instead of survival, ecstacy drugs without the negative comedowns that enhance the quality of life

Edited yesterday at 03:39 AM by Yeah Yeah

[theleelajoker]

6 hours ago, Yeah Yeah said:

Heard Alan Watts say a similar thing, which makes seeking feel futile like a snake chasing its own tail. Or this advice sounds like a koan: what is the sound of a one hand clap? Fairly sure most gurus do this intentionally by frustrating the seeker until they no longer need answers and just sit with themselves in the absurdity of it all, then act like that's enlightenment.

I'm a big Alan Watts fan, and I agree on the koan stuff and the absurdity of all.

On more thing though: my comment above is also based on my own experience. There are quite a few examples where this principle happened to me

Edited 20 hours ago by theleelajoker