Adyashanti - Good Karma? Bad Karma?

[RisingLane]

4 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

My last reply on this subject here anyway, my choice eh:)

Yes, I'm also determined to think it's probably best to let this matter rest for now 

[Arthogaan]

Both Free Will and Determinism are false because they both presuposses two unfindable things:

 

1. Separation - things predetermine other things. Or I can act upon other things. God is Self-Determined.

2. Time. There is no time therefore reality spontaneously appears this momement without chain of causation.

[RisingLane]

3 minutes ago, Arthogaan said:

There is no time therefore reality spontaneously appears this momement without chain of causation.

Yes. As Adya says in the video, cause and effect is like a game that seems to be happening but, in reality, has no real substance. From the ultimate perspective, even determinism isn’t true, though it’s closer to reality than the fanciful idea of free will. In the relative world, things unfold according to apparent cause and effect, not free will.

[Ramasta9]

On 12/16/2025 at 0:10 PM, RisingLane said:

The question is simple: Does free will exist or not? Before diving into that debate, we should first answer a few key questions:

• What exactly is will?
• What does it mean for the will to be free—and free from what?
• And if free will does exist, who actually possesses it? 

Fine, I’ll speak from my own experience. I honestly don’t feel like I have free will. Do you?

To simplify this is think of a maze: I'll put one below, Now Life is like a maze with infinite number of paths you can take and change directions or paths as many times as you want, they are like "themes" in life you are choosing to explore, so to speak, but ultimately, no matter the path, no matter the route, time, routine, theme, flavour ect... eventually all paths lead to one divine path or current, so the answer to these questions is always Both.

You do have free will, but there is also a greater divine will that plays itself out, that is the very nature of "infinite intelligence" Its always a paradox. 

The deepest questions in life, the answers are always paradoxical, because that is just what Infinite Intelligence or Intelligent Infinity means.

All roads lead to home, you can't fail, enlightenment, truth, freedom, peace, is eventually inevitable, it all depends on you and your ability to surrender to life's flow, and in my experience, the most masterful way you can live life, is not live life, but let life live you  

The Tao or Way of Being ~

Edited 11 hours ago by Ramasta9

[RisingLane]

7 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

You do have free will, but there is also a greater divine will that plays itself out,

That's what I used to believe. I can no longer accommodate free will. There is only God's will.

10 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

not live life, but let life live you

Life is always living you.

[Ramasta9]

29 minutes ago, RisingLane said:

That's what I used to believe. I can no longer accommodate free will. There is only God's will.

Life is always living you.

Again its both, you are also living life, there is and isn't. Both and None - The Paradox of life

 

[Breakingthewall]

4 hours ago, RisingLane said:

Yes. As Adya says in the video, cause and effect is like a game that seems to be happening but, in reality, has no real substance. From the ultimate perspective, even determinism isn’t true, though it’s closer to reality than the fanciful idea of free will. In the relative world, things unfold according to apparent cause and effect, not free will.

Why and on what basis does a guy who meditates make those kinds of claims? Doesn't he realize how crazy he seems? I mean, based on his subjective feelings, emotions, and projections, he knows that the chain of causality of reality is an illusion. 

[Breakingthewall]

3 hours ago, RisingLane said:

That's what I used to believe. I can no longer accommodate free will. There is only God's will.

Needing an external creator to explain reality is a projection of the ego. All human cultures have done this, as well as believing that identity continues after death.

Buddhism takes a further step and begins to understand reality without needing a creator and without needing the continuity of egoic identity.

Modern spirituality takes a step backward and, calling itself non-duality, places power once again in an external entity, consciousness, which imagines reality. It says it isn't external, since it is you, but with the peculiarity that you don't know how you are imagining reality; therefore, that fact is external to you. Theism disguised as enlightenment.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Needing an external creator to explain reality is a projection of the ego. All human cultures have done this, as well as believing that identity continues after death.

Buddhism takes a further step and begins to understand reality without needing a creator and without needing the continuity of egoic identity.

Modern spirituality takes a step backward and, calling itself non-duality, places power once again in an external entity, consciousness, which imagines reality. It says it isn't external, since it is you, but with the peculiarity that you don't know how you are imagining reality; therefore, that fact is external to you. Theism disguised as enlightenment.

 

[Breakingthewall]

3 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

 

What means that?

[Ishanga]

There are paradoxes in Life and Reality, this is why our Mind and using Logic won't work, You cannot live to your highest Potential via the Intellect or Logic or trying to fit it all together in a straight line...

Yes, there is only the living Now, that is where Life exists, Past is just Your Memory, Future is just Your imagination, neither exists in physical reality, but they exist in Your Mind, and with the past this is Karma, all the actions You performed in the past (Body, Mind, Emotion, Energy action) has a residual affect, its like an impression, deny this all You want, but all of existence/Creation is like this, if there was no Big Bang or whatever, no creation would exist, no planet earth, no invention of the internet, no forum, no You posting on it.. So even thought the past does not exist, it has an affect on us, especially if Your an Human Being and Unconscious!

Free Will lies in the fact that You can dissolve this personal Karma that You have, You can be Aware, which is another form of intelligence I would say, via this Your actually living in the NOW moment, this is reflected in Your Experience as Peace, Joy, Bliss, via that foundation You can see with Clarity (the future per say) and play this physical game of duality, karma, materialism here on Earth while Embodied.. There paradox is just this, life is only Now, but we can use the past experience to be wise from and plan for future but live now totally...This applies to Human Existence only... 

Your Body is full of the Past, but live Now.. Your Mind is past/future orientated, but Awareness can override the mind...Just play the game, don't analyze it too death...

Edited 4 hours ago by Ishanga