Dating as a low value man is inevitably painful

[pablo_aka_god]

the lower we go it becomes more interesting.

Women in the 50th percentile may struggle to get a quality relationship similarly to how a 50th percentile man struggles to get sex.

Who struggles more? I don't know. Women will say their life is harder, men will say theirs is harder.

Edited Friday at 01:16 PM by pablo_aka_god

[PenguinPablo]

@pablo_aka_god

Pablo what is the solution tho.

[HMD]

 

On 18/11/2025 at 10:39 AM, AION said:

If you want an easy life you are basically asking pretty girl privilege which is gay at best.

@AION I am going to write this down somewhere 

[LordFall]

On 11/18/2025 at 5:54 AM, Lyubov said:

Just that sentence of even viewing or labeling oneself as a low value man… 

I think it's a very important paradigm to take on. It actually removes the pressure and self identification with your lack of results if you see it as a skill issue like a video game. Gaining or losing value then becomes a conscious choice instead of a limited identity you're stuck into.

When I was in my early 20s I remember taking some upgrading classes and there were cute girls behind me talking about one of the guys she was dating and he was a fire fighter with his own place and car. At that time I had no job, was living in my dads basement with not much going on for me. People in this thread talk about delusional confidence and it does help but do you think it would be easier for me to get that girl then or now that I'm more established, run a business and known dozens of women in my city through being an event host?

@NewKidOnTheBlock For sure dating and social circle and networking has lot to do with the value you offer. If you're valuable people gather around you as value is just being able to solve people's problems and make their life better. Who wouldn't want to have people like that in their life? There are also men that are chaotic entities due their lack of inner alignment and will pretty much make the life of anyone who stays near them worse. Sometimes that works with women short term but rarely long term. 

 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

@LordFall Seems like an empty statement to make, "solving people's problems", whatever that means. And you've basically agreed with me anyway. Maybe the point you're trying to make is that we should all be oh so fucking gratefull to grind and self improoooove lmao, right? I guess that's your point. Be it as it may, once you stop being a "problem solver" you are as good as non existant again

[pablo_aka_god]

On 11/21/2025 at 0:17 PM, PenguinPablo said:

@pablo_aka_god

Pablo what is the solution tho.

@PenguinPablo

idk, I'm just contemplating the problem.

We need way more research in this topic so each sex can emphasize more with the other. I think that's a good starting point. We have a huge lack of empathy from both sides.

IMO the avg woman is way less emphatic with men than the other way around, probably just bc they don't need to be due to having more options and men may be more empathic only due to a lack of abundance. 

If I'm not empathic with the girl I'm dating. I'll have to wait months before getting another one, so I better be careful. (maybe this is fake empathy?)

 

Edited yesterday at 02:45 PM by pablo_aka_god