Basically, eternity lead to this moment right now, so where does awakening fit in

[Breakingthewall]

18 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

HOW!

Looking so deeply within yourself that you realize that beneath all the layers, absolute void opens up. Then, letting go of all structures, all forms and attachments, and accepting the total void that lies beneath them being one with it. Then the void opens and reveals itself as total and you are that.

It's quite simple in its structure but extremely difficult to do because of the forces at play.

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[Ishanga]

7 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Today and always. Being rich makes it easy to disconnect from reality.

Extremely absolutely super difficult. It's as if being human were, first, a set of chemical processes ordered by genetics that relentlessly propel you, and second, a dense structure of overlapping energy patterns, creating a kind of virtual reality from which escape is not easy.

It's as if a genius had created a labyrinth with traps, and you are that labyrinth; you are the energy structure formed by this reality that is trying to shift phases, to open up the structure and integrate it so that it functions without dense burdens.

Anyone who says it's easy, well, perhaps they don't know what they're talking about. Everything human is difficult and comes from pain. 

Yes absolutely!

I think Pain is present to make us Wiser! Its a survival mechanism too of course since we are so weak physically compared to other life here, but pain should make us wiser, its like a big ultra lighted up sign post saying Stop, but we don't stop, we cover it up and ignore it, and that causes more suffering. 

We are so Conditioned its nuts! And when ppl come along to make change, we kill them! That is the Human Condition right now, super stupid and sad!

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, Ishanga said:

We are so Conditioned its nuts! And when ppl come along to make change, we kill them! That is the Human Condition right now, super stupid and sad!

It's not stupid, things follow their own rhythm; that's how reality is structured. What we perceive as selfishness, cruelty, or stupidity can be seen as hyper-complex energy structures reaching a critical mass to shift to another phase of being.

It can't be any other way; it's like saying the Romans were horrible for crucifying people or that bacteria are son of a bitches for giving three-year-olds the bubonic plague. These are human judgments that are precisely what confine us, what makes our structure dense. 

It's easy to think: those powerful people, full of ambition and greed, should be different, but it doesn't work that way. They are exactly as the human social structure has shaped them through countless relationships and movements. That's how reality works.

From a human perspective, it's horrifying, without a doubt, but you have to completely step outside that perspective to open yourself to the whole.

[Ishanga]

13 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

It's not stupid, things follow their own rhythm; that's how reality is structured. What we perceive as selfishness, cruelty, or stupidity can be seen as hyper-complex energy structures reaching a critical mass to shift to another phase of being.

It can't be any other way; it's like saying the Romans were horrible for crucifying people or that bacteria are son of a bitches for giving three-year-olds the bubonic plague. These are human judgments that are precisely what confine us, what makes our structure dense. 

It's easy to think: those powerful people, full of ambition and greed, should be different, but it doesn't work that way. They are exactly as the human social structure has shaped them through countless relationships and movements. That's how reality works.

From a human perspective, it's horrifying, without a doubt, but you have to completely step outside that perspective to open yourself to the whole.

I don't think we have to be moving so slow, within my own lifetime society has drastically changed!  We just have to establish socially what is important, money or knowing??  We did it with illiteracy, 150yrs ago the majority didn't know how to read or write, now everybody does, so its possible!!  So for me it is stupid to think money and capitalism is the only way, its stupid to use fossil fuels when free energy has already been discovered, there's too many examples to list, its plain stupidity and unconsciousness at fault.. The real power elites don't want this so they make us slaves and conditioned idiots!! 

[Breakingthewall]

11 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

I don't think we have to be moving so slow, within my own lifetime society has drastically changed!  We just have to establish socially what is important, money or knowing??  We did it with illiteracy, 150yrs ago the majority didn't know how to read or write, now everybody does, so its possible!!  So for me it is stupid to think money and capitalism is the only way, its stupid to use fossil fuels when free energy has already been discovered, there's too many examples to list, its plain stupidity and unconsciousness at fault.. The real power elites don't want this so they make us slaves and conditioned idiots!! 

Two hundred years ago, nations were constantly at war, slaves were forced to work under the lash, and no one knew what medicine was. It seems like a pretty good pace. It could be better, but considering how human beings are, it's a miracle it's not something like the Warhammer novels.

Do you think it's normal that we've understood the structure of the atom and the fields of reality? I find it very strange. 

[Ishanga]

19 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Two hundred years ago, nations were constantly at war, slaves were forced to work under the lash, and no one knew what medicine was. It seems like a pretty good pace. It could be better, but considering how human beings are, it's a miracle it's not something like the Warhammer novels.

Do you think it's normal that we've understood the structure of the atom and the fields of reality? I find it very strange. 

Yeah it is strange, we've discovered and done allot..  We have already discovered the solution too, via the Eastern Traditions and other ways too that ppl come by. Strange times for sure!!

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, Ishanga said:

Yeah it is strange, we've discovered and done allot..  We have already discovered the solution too, via the Eastern Traditions and other ways too that ppl come by. Strange times for sure!!

Traditional Eastern teachings are unsuitable for modern humans. Spirituality is in its embryonic stage; profound understanding is necessary, not just practices. Modern humans can understand much, and will increasingly be able to understand more deeply. I think that humans are becoming more humble because they are realizing that life is a trap, the horror of nihilism is lurking in a lot of minds, then maybe something real could happen