Do not try to change the world, nor yourself

[James123]

Whatever you do or don't or whatever happens or don't happens, any possibility, including not any possibility arises and falls within. 

The harder you try, try to become, try to achieve more stupid you are 😂 

Not even lie back, nor enjoy the show.

Just fuck the effort. Let the body take care.

[TheSelf]

@James123

1 hour ago, James123 said:

Just fuck the effort.

Your efforts matters, as taking conscious control of your experience, your life experience can shift the whole experience for you.

You should live the way you desire, not dictated by unconsciousness. Your choice.

[James123]

3 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

@James123

Your efforts matters, as taking conscious control of your experience, your life experience can shift the whole experience for you.

You should live the way you desire, not dictated by unconsciousness. Your choice.

Trying or expectations just brings suffering.

Don't choose the lollipop (human), that's surrender the chooser then Truth shines.

Edited 4 hours ago by James123

[Someone here]

@James123 True. But the next step is it doesn't matter if you try or not try because trying to not try is trying and not trying to try or not try Is trying to try or not try. 

[TheSelf]

1 minute ago, James123 said:

Trying or expectations just brings suffering.

In fact conscious trying help you ease or get rid of the suffering as all sufferings downs to your level of consciousness.

5 minutes ago, James123 said:

Truth shines

The Absolute is always shining no matter what, as the pure presence of him allows any experiences, any risings or fallings, any possibilities to come to existence or falls, but see if efforts help you see the Truth, it's a possibility to end the sufferings in your experience and change every aspect of your life experience...not that it changes anything about your true nature as it's ever shining no matter what you experience. But still your choice what path to take.

[James123]

35 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

In fact conscious trying help you ease or get rid of the suffering as all sufferings downs to your level of consciousness.

The Absolute is always shining no matter what, as the pure presence of him allows any experiences, any risings or fallings, any possibilities to come to existence or falls, but see if efforts help you see the Truth, it's a possibility to end the sufferings in your experience and change every aspect of your life experience...not that it changes anything about your true nature as it's ever shining no matter what you experience. But still your choice what path to take.

What if, you completely let go yourself, and Truth acts for you? Which is not controlling.

[James123]

38 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@James123 True. But the next step is it doesn't matter if you try or not try because trying to not try is trying and not trying to try or not try Is trying to try or not try. 

Exactly 

[TheSelf]

27 minutes ago, James123 said:

What if, you completely let go yourself

That's super power, if one completely surrenders himself to God, then his body becomes his vessel, his will is God's will.

Unless one can reach this level, some effort needed. Ordinary man cannot surrender easily.

Edited 3 hours ago by TheSelf

[James123]

2 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

That's super power, if one completely surrenders himself to God, then his body becomes his vessel, his will is God's will.

Unless one can reach this level, some effort needed. Ordinary man cannot surrender easily.

It is actually not reaching, completely opposite. Completely giving up.

[TheSelf]

2 minutes ago, James123 said:

It is actually not reaching, completely opposite. Completely giving up.

I understand what you mean.

But the power to surrender yourself to the Divine will is achieved by controling one's mind. The ego has to be transcended to understand and accept total surrender.

[James123]

31 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

I understand what you mean.

But the power to surrender yourself to the Divine will is achieved by controling one's mind. The ego has to be transcended to understand and accept total surrender.

Yes. But it is actually not controlling but giving up the mind.

It is not believing in god, but deeply from bottom to heart, God is that which belongs to all. Therefore, giving back body and mind back to God.

Than become one with it.