Competing with AI

[AION]

Everybody should stop doing what they are doing and do a SWOT analysis vis-à-vis AI but almost nobody is doing that besides the smart ones. It can either be your competitor or companion. Either way, this feels like a good sci-fi movie. And we all have a front row seat  

Soon we will need new models for everything. A new economic and social model. A lot of suffering coming our way but as we all know suffering holds the seed to enlightenment. Only couple of super rich and most of the people will be dirt poor. I rather be at the top than below. Most important part is to not get into victim mode.

 

Edited Thursday at 05:12 AM by AION

[Schizophonia]

This is why it is all the more important to become communist and to create states that will collectivize the added value generated by AI; your solution is to maintain the plutocracy under the pretext that eventually, if you are lucky, you can rise socially.

So not only do I think AI seems overrated and very energy-intensive/non ecological; but new technologies are also technically increasingly inhuman and should be controlled because the human ego has been the same since the Paleolithic. A book always feels more enjoyable than YouTube videos or worst shorts even if they are more addictive, a city center with lots of people and shops always feels more enjoyable than a fucking supermarket etcetc.

Edited Thursday at 02:28 PM by Schizophonia

[MutedMiles]

Let's be realistic apart from hype, what are the 10 remarkable things of actual value that AI has delivered so far?

Infact there are no 10 things of real value that AI has delivered infact recent MIT report on actual business adoption of AI, it is reported that 95% of AI based projects have delivered no real value and are failed, this is even after adoption of AI. The only concrete thing AI is delivering is user engagement which is similar to social media which isn't something of real value. Two industries where AI is adopted so far is Software development and Media.

The jump from GPT 3.5 to 4 was way bigger then the jump from GPT 4 to GPT 5, infact many users are not even convinced that GPT5 is any better than GPT4 at all including me, that's the best of the model trained by the brightest of the minds for years using infinite compute.

And now Mr. Sam is promoting GPT 6, the same way GPT 5 was promoted, it's quite clear now they are heavily funded and want to keep the hype train going, which is only possible if most of the world digital population makes a transition to AI similar to the one that was made to smart phones, infact bigger, since now in subscription friendly environment people are expected to pay.

There is always a possibility of surprises but, we need to be realistic, the magic everyone was waiting for has already passed.

[AION]

Most humans are so uhh. I can’t wait for extinction of the bottom part of society. That is why I’m hellbent on doing my part of the job. 

Edited Friday at 07:58 AM by AION

[Leo Gura]

AI stupid, it is not replacing anyone but button-pushers.

[vibv]

AI is dead intelligence.

[ryoko]

I'm so appalled at how people think AI is replacing anyone. 
AI is a tool to disrupt industries, which I am all in favor of. Let em replace all useless jobs and free up people. 

Edited Friday at 10:24 AM by ryoko

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

AI stupid, it is not replacing anyone but button-pushers.

There is no telling what is going to happen, actually. Given enough time and enough carelessness, A.I. might just exterminate our asses, i.e. everyone, there's up to 20% possibility that's going to happen. In the short to medium term it might reinforce the current wealth inequality even further, but to think you can control and make an aliance with something vastly superior to you is just wishfull thinking

[AION]

Eventually all jobs will be taken over. Perhaps in 10 years or perhaps in 100 or 200 years. It doesn’t matter. Even 100 years goes by very fast on the grand scale. 

First the least creative jobs then the more creative jobs. Just extrapolate the growth of AI. Last year it was a high schooler. And now a university student. 

It is foolish to say that “hey look AI is stupid” while it grows intelligence at an epic rate. In two years you will have to swallow your words because its growth compounds very quickly. Humans have fallen out of God’s grace. And rightly so.

 

Edited Friday at 01:02 PM by AION

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 hour ago, AION said:

Eventually all jobs will be taken over. Perhaps in 10 years or perhaps in 100 or 200 years. It doesn’t matter. Even 100 years goes by very fast on the grand scale. 

First the least creative jobs then the more creative jobs. Just extrapolate the growth of AI. Last year it was a high schooler. And now a university student. 

It is foolish to say that “hey look AI is stupid” while it grows intelligence at an epic rate. In two years you will have to swallow your words because its growth compounds very quickly. Humans have fallen out of God’s grace. And rightly so.

 

Do you think current AI is intelligent? End user AI we see, that is 

[AION]

4 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Do you think current AI is intelligent? End user AI we see, that is 

If you ask smart questions you get smart answers back. It is not what it is now. But what it is becoming. I’m mind blown by the growth of it in just 2 years. It is insane. 

[Lord of Darkness]

On 10/9/2025 at 4:27 PM, Schizophonia said:

This is why it is all the more important to become communist and to create states that will collectivize the added value generated by AI; your solution is to maintain the plutocracy under the pretext that eventually, if you are lucky, you can rise socially.

So not only do I think AI seems overrated and very energy-intensive/non ecological; but new technologies are also technically increasingly inhuman and should be controlled because the human ego has been the same since the Paleolithic. A book always feels more enjoyable than YouTube videos or worst shorts even if they are more addictive, a city center with lots of people and shops always feels more enjoyable than a fucking supermarket etcetc.

Agreed. What if electrons are tiny trapped human souls?

[Lord of Darkness]

On 10/9/2025 at 7:45 PM, MutedMiles said:

Let's be realistic apart from hype, what are the 10 remarkable things of actual value that AI has delivered so far?

Infact there are no 10 things of real value that AI has delivered infact recent MIT report on actual business adoption of AI, it is reported that 95% of AI based projects have delivered no real value and are failed, this is even after adoption of AI. The only concrete thing AI is delivering is user engagement which is similar to social media which isn't something of real value. Two industries where AI is adopted so far is Software development and Media.

The jump from GPT 3.5 to 4 was way bigger then the jump from GPT 4 to GPT 5, infact many users are not even convinced that GPT5 is any better than GPT4 at all including me, that's the best of the model trained by the brightest of the minds for years using infinite compute.

And now Mr. Sam is promoting GPT 6, the same way GPT 5 was promoted, it's quite clear now they are heavily funded and want to keep the hype train going, which is only possible if most of the world digital population makes a transition to AI similar to the one that was made to smart phones, infact bigger, since now in subscription friendly environment people are expected to pay.

There is always a possibility of surprises but, we need to be realistic, the magic everyone was waiting for has already passed.

It replaced 90% of managerial class yesterday

Edited Friday at 07:04 PM by Lord of Darkness

[Lord of Darkness]

6 hours ago, AION said:

Eventually all jobs will be taken over. Perhaps in 10 years or perhaps in 100 or 200 years. It doesn’t matter. Even 100 years goes by very fast on the grand scale. 

First the least creative jobs then the more creative jobs. Just extrapolate the growth of AI. Last year it was a high schooler. And now a university student. 

It is foolish to say that “hey look AI is stupid” while it grows intelligence at an epic rate. In two years you will have to swallow your words because its growth compounds very quickly. Humans have fallen out of God’s grace. And rightly so.

 

Not if ppl get pissed and hammer it down if they realise it more threat then help

[Lord of Darkness]

4 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Do you think current AI is intelligent? End user AI we see, that is 

Not really its more like wikipedia on steroids. Off course hype confuses many.

[MutedMiles]

 

7 hours ago, AION said:

Eventually all jobs will be taken over. Perhaps in 10 years or perhaps in 100 or 200 years. It doesn’t matter. Even 100 years goes by very fast on the grand scale. 

First the least creative jobs then the more creative jobs. Just extrapolate the growth of AI. Last year it was a high schooler. And now a university student. 

It is foolish to say that “hey look AI is stupid” while it grows intelligence at an epic rate. In two years you will have to swallow your words because its growth compounds very quickly. Humans have fallen out of God’s grace. And rightly so.

I have been using AI extensively in my work, had very high expectations around 2022-2023, but gradually viewing the progress and seeing the issues first hand I'm not so optimistic now, progress will come but at a longer time scale, Maybe around 5-10 years at minimum we'll see some real progress different from current hype based paradigm.

There will be many shinny, catchy and fascinating things along the way. To keep users engaged and hooked till the real value is delivered. Currently real value is being delivered in media and software development primarily. 

And AI takeover of jobs is not in the order of less creativity first, it's the creative jobs that are more exposed , Least creative manual jobs are less exposed. Movie industry, writing and programming (supposed to be an art ) etc. are exposed.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

6 hours ago, AION said:

If you ask smart questions you get smart answers back. It is not what it is now. But what it is becoming. I’m mind blown by the growth of it in just 2 years. It is insane. 

I get that - but it is well known AI is simply a reflection. 

But do YOU think it is intelligent? 

I struggle to see it doing my job for example. Even projecting out into the near future

 

[AION]

17 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I get that - but it is well known AI is simply a reflection. 

But do YOU think it is intelligent? 

I struggle to see it doing my job for example. Even projecting out into the near future

 

At this point AI is a mirror. That is why most people can’t reap the benefits of AI while there are few who can utilize it. Human and AI is like human and a horse. But this horse is very difficult to ride. So your whole paradigm is wrong by asking that question. Another frame of mind is this: the relationship between human and AI is like a dance between a man and a woman. The man leads and the women follows most of the time but sometimes it reverses if she is a good dancer. If the man can’t lead there is no dance happening vis-à-vis salsa dancing. Most humans are men who can’t lead. Impotent and clueless. 

Edited Friday at 10:01 PM by AION

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@AION i'll leave you to that thought. I was interested in your opinion, but I see why you might want to dodge the question 

[AION]

@Natasha Tori Maru it doesn’t have its own intelligence. For now. That is the straight forward answer. If you read between the lines that was my message.

Edited Saturday at 12:33 AM by AION