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Love vs Survival Vs fear

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@ivankiss @Someone here I hid the conversation, avoid making it personal. Grow up a bit.

.... so what were we talking about? Survival, fear?

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@UnbornTao Alright.

A false identity will do anything to survive, trembling with fear in the presence of love.

Point proven.


 

 

 

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@UnbornTao yes ..and love .


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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1 minute ago, ivankiss said:

@UnbornTao Alright.

A false identity will do anything to survive, trembling with fear in the presence of love.

Point proven.

A self-identity (whatever is identified as self) could itself be based on fear as it has no fundamental substance in reality.

Just a thought.

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2 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

@UnbornTao Alright.

A false identity will do anything to survive, trembling with fear in the presence of love.

Point proven.

Go meta one step further. 


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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3 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

@UnbornTao Just a thought indeed.

It came and it went, so to speak.

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@Someone here There are no more steps.

There is only consciousness. Right now. Forever and ever. Times infinity. And back. Forever.

 


 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@UnbornTao yes ..and love .

I guess I have a bias. xD

@Someone here I hid your answer again, as it probably would've started another fire. Pay attention to your own role in this, too.

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OK since no one wants to discuss the topic for now then I'm going to grab something to eat . Feed my pet and come back later . Cheers .


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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On 10/8/2025 at 7:06 AM, Someone here said:

Love as Leo describes it is the realization that everyone are you ..that there is really no difference between anything..that everything is good no matter what seems to be happening with your life or in the world . That's a big thing to become conscious of. I will try to convey it intellectually .this realization is that even that bully who used to bully you in school and steal your sandwiches and money is literally you .there is no reason at all to hate him/her because you could say in a certain sense that you will incarnate as him and you will bully the other version of you. There is no reason to freak out because the world is about to have a WWIII Because war has existed since civilizations existed .which takes me to talk about survival . There is only one obstacle that hinders Love and that is survival. If you stopped hating things that go against your survival you will die . As simple as if you stopped hating hunger you will die . And nobody wants to die .so basically there Is an existential eternal fight between Love and survival.  Your job here is to love .you wish to do it .you deep down want to hug everyone and everything because they are you in the end ..but you can't do it because you will die if you did that .

Total self acceptance.  Imagine sitting naked on the streets taking a shit .you will go jail of course for public exposure. But imagine we are living in the cavemen age and society didn't exist yet..you'd have no issues at all doing that .so fear is another obstacle that prevents you from being yourself . Being yourself is the only thing you have to do in this life ..but you are afraid to do that because people will judge you and because your practical life will collapse . There is eternal fight between Love and fear .

Unfortunately (to the ego ) and fortunately (to YOU) ..Love is going to win no matter what .thats what you call "death ". 

 

This has been discussed before. Basically there is a duality between ego and God/Spirituality/metaphysical love and metaphysical Oness (same thing).

This is why self improvement and spirituality collide.  The best thing is to strike a balance.  But when you go full fledged into spiritual work it will end in ego death.  The balance comes later when trying to juggle ego and the Spiritual Truths realized on awakening.   That integration and embodiment is the real struggle not the sitting down and doing self inquiry. That was the easy part.


 

Wisdom.  Truth.  Love.

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42 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

This has been discussed before. Basically there is a duality between ego and God/Spirituality/metaphysical love and metaphysical Oness (same thing).

A fight or clash.. not "duality ". Between Love and survival and fear .

43 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

The balance comes later when trying to juggle ego and the Spiritual Truths realized on awakening.   That integration and embodiment is the real struggle not the sitting down and doing self inquiry. That was the easy part

Help me out . There is no Reconciliation ever between devil and god . God is so anal about being everything possible and ego is so delusional to think it can actually juggle with God. Once you realize its all love and nothing matters it's hard to buy society's bullshit. Actually impossible not hard .which is why enlightened People become solipsistic because they are too disconnected from the mass insanity that's called society and they are fractaled off inside and so anchored in perfection and God consciousness.  Dude what the fuck are you doing in the politics section? Politics is dirty egotism. The US literally can end the world in few seconds with a nuclear weapon but Trump is not awake to do that .


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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