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Love vs Survival Vs fear

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Love as Leo describes it is the realization that everyone are you ..that there is really no difference between anything..that everything is good no matter what seems to be happening with your life or in the world . That's a big thing to become conscious of. I will try to convey it intellectually .this realization is that even that bully who used to bully you in school and steal your sandwiches and money is literally you .there is no reason at all to hate him/her because you could say in a certain sense that you will incarnate as him and you will bully the other version of you. There is no reason to freak out because the world is about to have a WWIII Because war has existed since civilizations existed .which takes me to talk about survival . There is only one obstacle that hinders Love and that is survival. If you stopped hating things that go against your survival you will die . As simple as if you stopped hating hunger you will die . And nobody wants to die .so basically there Is an existential eternal fight between Love and survival.  Your job here is to love .you wish to do it .you deep down want to hug everyone and everything because they are you in the end ..but you can't do it because you will die if you did that .

Total self acceptance.  Imagine sitting naked on the streets taking a shit .you will go jail of course for public exposure. But imagine we are living in the cavemen age and society didn't exist yet..you'd have no issues at all doing that .so fear is another obstacle that prevents you from being yourself . Being yourself is the only thing you have to do in this life ..but you are afraid to do that because people will judge you and because your practical life will collapse . There is eternal fight between Love and fear .

Unfortunately (to the ego ) and fortunately (to YOU) ..Love is going to win no matter what .thats what you call "death ". 

 

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 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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On 08/10/2025 at 2:06 PM, Someone here said:

Love as Leo describes

You already lost me.


 

 

 

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@ivankiss Go to Nahm's forum then . 


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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@Someone here There is no Nahm.

No Phil. No Leo. No ivankiss. And no whatever the heck your real name is.

Those are thoughts.


 

 

 

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@ivankiss please stop . I'm putting time and energy into writing posts here .you're constantly ruining my topics . 

Tell me what is the suffering you are enduring in life recently?  Maybe..just maybe I can help you .


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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But, to speak in a language that can be understood...

You had this coming. I gave you a choice. You chose this. You cannot stop it now. Not even if Leo bans me. And he won't, because he loves me and he's aware enough to see that this is pure wokeness speaking and doing its job, disguised as poking and trolling.


 

 

 

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@ivankiss reported you .nothing else to do . Much love brother.


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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2 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

@Someone here See you in India.

Your welcome . Just the other day I was hanging out in taj mahal all by myself because i don't have any friends . India is more beautiful than Russia . I like Comatozze though . bollywood movies are great too they are tossing off American movies in few decades my country is going to be the biggest tourist destination in the entire planet .it already is .we discovered God before Jesus was even born from a virgin bitch 😂. 

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 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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Also, I'm not Russian, eww.

I'm a Serbo-Hungarian-Slovene mutant.


 

 

 

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@ivankiss trust me we can talk off line about whatever the fuck you want..but this is an online forum for spirituality. People actually do read what other people write .you are making a fool out of yourself and I'm just being gentle with you .

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 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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@UnbornTao I'm on topic .I wrote the topic .he doesn't discuss the topic and trolling around .


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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Just now, Someone here said:

@UnbornTao I'm on topic .I wrote the topic .he doesn't discuss the topic and trolling around .

I don't see anything particularly wrong or disrespectful with his first replies.

@ivankiss @Someone here Fix your relationship, or get divorced.

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@ivankiss love is unconditional. You literally cannot fail at life . No matter how dark it gets you are loved unconditionally .no way whatsoever you can get it wrong .

survival & fear are the only things that make you think otherwise .

Will you discuss this ?


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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@Someone here Fine. I'll give you another option. If you say it clearly and precisely here and now, I will stop replying to any of your threads or comments. Not because I do not absolutely love and enjoy this, but because I must respect the forum. 

@UnbornTao Be my witness. Because you clearly did not notice how this relationship started and why it looks the way it does right now.

 

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9 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

@Someone here Fine. I'll give you another option. If you say it clearly and precisely here and now, I will stop replying to any of your threads or comments. Not because I do not absolutely love and enjoy this, but because I must respect the forum. 

@UnbornTao Be my witness. Because you clearly did not notice how this relationship started and why it looks the way it does right now.

As long as you guys behave, it's fine.

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