When death comes, which belief will you cling to?

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, theoneandnone said:

So truly nothing is happening 

Only appears to be. There's a difference with something actually happening and appears to be. 

Nothing is happening as in NOTHING is appearing to happen. What's happening is nothing. Hehe. I know nuts..

[Mellowmarsh]

22 hours ago, theoneandnone said:

Doesn’t make sense 

Nondual awareness doesn’t make sense. Sense comes on contact with an object in other words a thought.

Aware of being aware. That’s a duality. That is the sense of self.

It is pointless trying to make sense of nonsense nonduality which is a flawed belief, because it's only half of the story.

I have no idea why  more emphasis is placed on the death of self, but yes, this death can be recognised as a thing known, but life still goes on living after enlightenment for no one.

Edited October 6 by Mellowmarsh

[theoneandnone]

3 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Nondual awareness doesn’t make sense. Sense comes on contact with an object in other words a thought.

Aware of being aware. That’s a duality. That is the sense of self.

It is pointless trying to make sense of nonsense nonduality which is a flawed belief, because it's only half of the story.

I have no idea why  more emphasis is placed on the death of self, but yes, this death can be recognised as a thing known, but life still goes on living after enlightenment for no one.

If it doesn’t all make sense then what makes sense what is the sense that you make sense of all of what is?

[Mellowmarsh]

8 minutes ago, theoneandnone said:

If it doesn’t all make sense then what makes sense what is the sense that you make sense of all of what is?

Sense is the sense of knowing you exist. That’s why you don’t jump off a cliff because you sense the gravity. 
 

There’s loads of examples of making sense of everything including the environment or the workings of the brain or mind.

It’s just a human job, to make sense of itself. Obviously it cannot make sense of itself if it doesn’t exist.

Edited October 6 by Mellowmarsh

[theoneandnone]

2 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Sense is the sense of knowing you exist. That’s why you don’t jump off a cliff because you sense the gravity. 
 

There’s loads of examples of making sense of everything including the environment or the workings of the brain or mind.

It’s just a human job, to make sense of itself. Obviously it cannot make sense of itself if it doesn’t exist.

I wonder what keeps me from truly dying I don’t see a point in this dream I’m getting bored 

[Mellowmarsh]

3 minutes ago, theoneandnone said:

I wonder what keeps me from truly dying I don’t see a point in this dream I’m getting bored 

I don’t see any point in it either. I’m looking forward to never being aware again, if that’s even possible, I just don’t know.

[Mellowmarsh]

I don’t really know what death is, nor do I know what awareness is. I’m just here in the middle of two unknowns. Making up stories with thoughts and words.

Edited October 6 by Mellowmarsh

[Mellowmarsh]

“When death comes, which belief will you cling to?”
 

Which belief will you cling to James, Do answer your own question for me.

[theoneandnone]

27 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I don’t see any point in it either. I’m looking forward to never being aware again, if that’s even possible, I just don’t know.

Unfortunately don’t know if that’s possible sadly 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Non-duality is only half the story - think of it as a step on the journey.

Endless journey.

1 hour ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I don’t really know what death is, nor do I know what awareness is. I’m just here in the middle of two unknowns. Making up stories with thoughts and words.

I mean - not a bad place to be ⊂(◉‿◉)つ

[James123]

12 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Non-duality is only half the story - think of it as a step on the journey.

Endless journey.

What if, journey never began?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

6 minutes ago, James123 said:

What if, journey never began?

 

[Mellowmarsh]

7 hours ago, James123 said:

What if, journey never began?

But they have to begin, or else you’d never know to say “journey never began” . You are aware of every concept you created, in the dream. Your entire reality is the dream.
 

“You” exist as a dream character. You are aware of yourself in a dream. And yes, nothing ever happened in a dream, and yet the dream feels real.

[James123]

23 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

But they have to begin, or else you’d never know to say “journey never began” . You are aware of every concept you created, in the dream. Your entire reality is the dream.
 

“You” exist as a dream character. You are aware of yourself in a dream. And yes, nothing ever happened in a dream, and yet the dream feels real.

 

What is real? Or who feels it as real?

What if, birth is just a word, but has no actual action?

[Mellowmarsh]

13 hours ago, James123 said:

 

What is real? Or who feels it as real?

What if, birth is just a word, but has no actual action?

Infinity is a word too.

Going by the word, “infinity” and it’s associated meaning, infinity can never complete and so no journey is ever taken, you’re right.

Except in this conception. Except in the dream. You cannot stop dreaming, but you can wake-up to the recognition that dreams are namely real illusory happenings. And not unreal not happenings. Or maybe BOTH  in this conception.

 

 

[James123]

43 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Infinity is a word too.

Going by the word, “infinity” and it’s associated meaning, infinity can never complete and so no journey is ever taken, you’re right.

Except in this conception. Except in the dream. You cannot stop dreaming, but you can wake-up to the recognition that dreams are namely real illusory happenings. And not unreal not happenings. Or maybe BOTH  in this conception.

 

 

The dream is for the body. Not for You.

[James123]

21 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

 

Don't believe.

 

[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, James123 said:

The dream is for the body. Not for You.

The body knows nothing. But you do.

 

There is no you because there’s no other than you.

[Mellowmarsh]

5 minutes ago, James123 said:

The dream is for the body. Not for You.

When death comes, which belief will you cling to?

Don't speak for others, answer your own question. Speak up, or be silent. There’s no other.

 

[Mellowmarsh]