Franz_

occult magic,occult in general is there some truth to it to an extent?

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i watched this former freemasonry guy called Bill Schnoebelen documenting his experiences with the meeting of the occult and freemasonry in general,and i wondered. That  the occult is just a mumbo jumbo or people in high status or posts like freemasonry degree 33rd (he was at that level btw) really understand the occult on a whole different level and can do black magic whitchcraft or whatever you wanna call it. from lucifer or something else idk.or is it just a fake spirituality?  from my  perspective im skeptical about it.This is the video if you wanna watch it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkR3iANDA78&t=56s pretty interesting one and it will take you down a rabbit hole.thanks for  the answers everyone,im going to read every one of them if my time allows it lol.

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I've recently watched a video by Jesse on NASA and the occult. Really fascinating. Most people involved with space traveling were freemasanory and the founder of NASA himself was an occultist. 

 


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@Salvijus alr i get it bro,it was just a question because of how deep this forum goes,literally almost everything is or was mentioned here once,i'm sorry no need to be rude😔

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The government do it via mass manipulation. Occult is using someone's mind against them. We are all in the spirit realm( our imagination) you can use things to change people's imagination. Literally you thinking about someone is occult. Praying to God for something is occult.

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Everything physical has a spiritual side to it. And it is the spiritual side that dictates the matter not the other way around. Usually things happen way before in the spirit realm before that same thing manifests in the physical domain, hence the science of occult. All spiritually in general is occult, even something as simple as meditation or prayer. 


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18 minutes ago, Franz_ said:

@Salvijus alr i get it bro,it was just a question because of how deep this forum goes,literally almost everything is or was mentioned here once,i'm sorry no need to be rude😔

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@Hojo so does that mean we can kinda crack or control reality somehow?  if we are in our imagination or one would think that but i assume it doesn't work that way

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Yes but don’t tell anybody 


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@Franz_ Its like you walk around imagining things and peoples imaginations pick up on it. You breathe in reality and alter it with your imagination then breathe out your imaginings. Your imagining are breathed in by others and if they want to imagine it they will start imagining your imaginations.

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How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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Why this interest in the occultism? You can get only opinions and have to decide on your own if it is legit or not.

Modern day Occultism is usually associated with witchcraft and black magic. But when the term came to light it was synonym with esoteric. Occultism means hidden. Exoteric is for the masses and esoteric is for the elect. Some practices/knowledge are not meant for the ego-human to have. As the ego will most likely use it for selfish gain. Selfish=black, unselfish=white. Magic = the use of spiritual/fpsychic/mental forces. Now if there is even a small self interest in the use of magic then it will automatically be black magic. So i could bless my enemies, not to humble them for my benefit, but from the knowing that they are the impersonal Self. Now I know enough of my own egoic trickery so wouldn't do that, there is always some sort of selfishsness underneat my intentions. That is why i avoid any kind of "magic", to avoid unnecessary stuff to myself/others.

Obviously you didn't ask for the definition for occultism/black magic. Whether it is fake or not? It is fake spirituality. In a sense that it takes away from realizing your Self, inwhich is the bullseye of everything spiritual. If it is black magic, then maybe it can acttually take you "further" apart from the Self.

Is there magic in masonry? I dont know. Haven't studied it. They maybe get connections and a community from it.  Dont know if they need magic. But what would an actual black magician do with freemasonry? The magician would infiltrate the society at its beginning. Hide the spiritual knowledge by creating degrees of initation, promising more knowledge at every level, maybe sprinkling some of its true doctrines but hiding the best stuff away forever, adding meaningless rituals etc. A black magician is attracted to the light of spirituality as a moth is to light. They infiltrate and blow fairy dust in the seekers eyes. Hidding the truth, ego on steroids.

The definitions above are theoretical and over a century old.  There are modern definitions, but i believe they have been created by modern selfish-egos. As i go by these rules, i do not touch upon any of this stuff, as i am somewhat aware of the depth of my selfishness. I could go describe how nerves of nature/centers of energy react to thoughts but it is meaningless. As far as i am concerned it is bogus for me at the moment, and you can believe that i just took all these words from my behind.

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Yes, it's real but it should be a by-product of your path or secondary pursuit. It's very rare  to achieve the highest consciousness states via Magick but it's certainly possible, Damien Echols is an example.


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