So after solipsism then what?

[theoneandnone]

I know this site has been on the solipsism bender for over 5 years. I’ve been in and out of solipsism okay so what I’m in a dream so what all of you are part of my mind now what? I can’t change anything or people etc. you can bring up junk like Neville Goddard and manifest things but it’s hogwash. Me personally I find solipsism lame. “Hey congrats you are utterly alone as God dreaming” can’t even change the dream can’t even put my consciousness in other vessels just stuck in this body by myself and creation I can’t even change. How fucking lame is this this reality and experience is fucking far from being nirvana. 

[BuffaloBill]

yeah reality seems like it's stuck, not enough novelty. or like. the laws of physics arent being bended in accordance with your will. but that's kind of an argument against solipsism, if reality was solipsistic it would've been destroyed by now. maybe some precautions were made before generating this dream. Like maybe a thousand lifetimes ago the dreamer (god) made a perfect version of reality that cannot be altered within the dream. sort of like creating a video game and then playing it yourself, but removing your god mode and memory.

 

iunno.

[theoneandnone]

52 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

yeah reality seems like it's stuck, not enough novelty. or like. the laws of physics arent being bended in accordance with your will. but that's kind of an argument against solipsism, if reality was solipsistic it would've been destroyed by now. maybe some precautions were made before generating this dream. Like maybe a thousand lifetimes ago the dreamer (god) made a perfect version of reality that cannot be altered within the dream. sort of like creating a video game and then playing it yourself, but removing your god mode and memory.

 

iunno.

I agree I could have gave myself amnesia etc and “forgot” but sounds like mental gymnastics I will continue to hold multiple views on this experience that is happening without keeping one idea as it’s pure Dogma. Nonetheless solipsism god how lame and boring but if I could start altering shit like a sandbox then we might have something to advocate for sloppy sismmm lol

[Spiral]

It's not about understanding, it never was. You have to go deeper on your own. To glance beyond the veil. It is dangerous and maddening.

[cetus]

54 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

Like maybe a thousand lifetimes ago the dreamer (god) made a perfect version of reality that cannot be altered within the dream. sort of like creating a video game and then playing it yourself, but removing your god mode and memory.

Safeguards. Can you imagine someone having access to full on God mode/memory? Probably go off halfcocked someday and collapse all of reality. And yes, memory is the way to "God mode".  Ever notice how all breakthroughs and realizations feel so familiar? It's all about remembering. Bit by bit. Safeguards.

[Hojo]

@theoneandnone As discussed in the previous thread you called a cope. You merge with God's will and reality will change. Or it won't. Up to your will ( whats happening). You are not seeing the freedom here.

When navigating life say everything that is happening is Gods will and God's will is for your greater good. Suffering stops.

Edited Friday at 10:07 PM by Hojo

[theoneandnone]

55 minutes ago, Spiral said:

It's not about understanding, it never was. You have to go deeper on your own. To glance beyond the veil. It is dangerous and maddening.

How so explain 

[theoneandnone]

38 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@theoneandnone As discussed in the previous thread you called a cope. You merge with God's will and reality will change. Or it won't. Up to your will ( whats happening). You are not seeing the freedom here.

When navigating life say everything that is happening is Gods will and God's will is for your greater good. Suffering stops.

Once again disagree “I got beat up and robbed” it’s part of gods will! You are just trying to justify the shitty things that happen in life. 

[Hojo]

@theoneandnone Those happen when you decoher from Gods will. The more you disagree the worse it gets. You can name any number of horrible things that could happen those are part of the ego. I have been beat up and robbed and left for dead on the street twice and I don't disagree. When you fight life life turns into a fight.

Another anecdote I was riding my bike and someone came to rob me for my bike I said fine take it and he said just joking and left.

Edited Saturday at 01:06 AM by Hojo

[theoneandnone]

13 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@theoneandnone Those happen when you decoher from Gods will. The more you disagree the worse it gets. You can name any number of horrible things that could happen those are part of the ego. I have been beat up and robbed and left for dead on the street twice and I don't disagree. When you fight life life turns into a fight.

Another anecdote I was riding my bike and someone came to rob me for my bike I said fine take it and he said just joking and left.

So basically you see it as all the good bad and ugly is part of Gods will yes? Also you speak of God as someone outside me but at the same time could be interpreted as I’m god doing all this so fighting these situations is fighting myself essentially? I don’t know I’ve seen God spoken about many different ways here. 

[Hojo]

@theoneandnoneYou dont exist. You are a decoherence pattern of the dream. It needs it or all of the machines in Gods dream would just kill themselves. The only thing that exists is God and its decoherence pattern which is you. The decoherence pattern creates karma, which is loops in the dream that God (the machine) didnt agree with. 

God and you are one, the machine and the dream are one thing. You are just a thought, you are a made up idea that other machines told your machine existed.

Literally reality is inside of your brain, you are witnessing reality from inside your body its not outside.

Pretend behind the computer screen is your own brain matter. Theres no one in else in your head. If I cut your eyeballs out you would still be there in your body in the dark. What the eyes do is shine light (information like code) into the brain and the light is deciphered by the brain and projects an image into the brain where you witness it. So you arent in looking out into a reality reality is being beemed to you in a dark void. When you say you are talking to people there is no one in that person. Its a 2 dimensional image  of light being projected into the brain with no one in it. Its just light.

Since the light cant be objectified (its just an unknown light source coming from you have no idea where. You cant know if what the people are saying is truthful since they are just 2 D with no one doing logic in them in your direct experience via this logic.) And sound isnt being heard from anywhere (Its rumbles in an ear that you arent as you can go deaf and you are still there. You are somewhere else hearing the sound from the ear. The ear is sending information into the same space as the eyes are. This is the same for all senses.

So reality is just an unknown light rumblings and feelings all happening around this nothingness. Thats God and you are just a voice is created so that it wouldnt kill itself and it could survive.

Life is sensations in a void. The void makes up sensations they arent even real cause they arent happening to anything.

But since God is infinite there is even another thing that it is in your direct experience. God means not that.

Edited Saturday at 03:11 AM by Hojo

[Inliytened1]

8 hours ago, theoneandnone said:

I know this site has been on the solipsism bender for over 5 years. I’ve been in and out of solipsism okay so what I’m in a dream so what all of you are part of my mind now what? I can’t change anything or people etc. you can bring up junk like Neville Goddard and manifest things but it’s hogwash. Me personally I find solipsism lame. “Hey congrats you are utterly alone as God dreaming” can’t even change the dream can’t even put my consciousness in other vessels just stuck in this body by myself and creation I can’t even change. How fucking lame is this this reality and experience is fucking far from being nirvana. 

You're comparing the truth about reality to how the ego wants it.  When you actually wake up to God it will be Infinite Bliss. After that it's just about lucid dreaming.  You can enjoy it so much more..  the downside is that you're like the developer now going back and playing the game you created.  You can still enjoy it its just different now because you understand everything.   But when you go back and play you lose yourself in the game again. 

 

Edited Saturday at 03:41 AM by Inliytened1

[theoneandnone]

5 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

You're comparing the truth about reality to how the ego wants it.  When you actually wake up to God it will be Infinite Bliss. After that it's just about lucid dreaming.  You can enjoy it so much more..  the downside is that you're like the developer now going back and playing the game you created.  You can still enjoy it its just different now because you understand everything.   But when you go back and play you lose yourself in the game again. 

 

Yeah the ego wants to manipulate things at will but maybe my God self set all this up like I’m pissed off I can’t change the dream content but I probably set all this up for a certain reason I should honestly be astonished at the beauty and work I’ve put into all of this. 

[theoneandnone]

45 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@theoneandnoneYou dont exist. You are a decoherence pattern of the dream. It needs it or all of the machines in Gods dream would just kill themselves. The only thing that exists is God and its decoherence pattern which is you. The decoherence pattern creates karma, which is loops in the dream that God (the machine) didnt agree with. 

God and you are one, the machine and the dream are one thing. You are just a thought, you are a made up idea that other machines told your machine existed.

Literally reality is inside of your brain, you are witnessing reality from inside your body its not outside.

Pretend behind the computer screen is your own brain matter. Theres no one in else in your head. If I cut your eyeballs out you would still be there in your body in the dark. What the eyes do is shine light (information like code) into the brain and the light is deciphered by the brain and projects an image into the brain where you witness it. So you arent in looking out into a reality reality is being beemed to you in a dark void. When you say you are talking to people there is no one in that person. Its a 2 dimensional image  of light being projected into the brain with no one in it. Its just light.

Since the light cant be objectified (its just an unknown light source coming from you have no idea where. You cant know if what the people are saying is truthful since they are just 2 D with no one doing logic in them in your direct experience via this logic.) And sound isnt being heard from anywhere (Its rumbles in an ear that you arent as you can go deaf and you are still there. You are somewhere else hearing the sound from the ear. The ear is sending information into the same space as the eyes are. This is the same for all senses.

So reality is just an unknown light rumblings and feelings all happening around this nothingness. Thats God and you are just a voice is created so that it wouldnt kill itself and it could survive.

Life is sensations in a void. The void makes up sensations they arent even real cause they arent happening to anything.

But since God is infinite there is even another thing that it is in your direct experience. God means not that.

I would go even further and say the brain is still clinging to a self and is too materialistic. Everything is happening inside conscious experience but I agree that it’s a void of nothingness pure light signals and interpretations and random labels. What a mind fuck what  even is a mind am I a mind? There’s no me there’s just a dream playing with itself hell even dream is a label and even the world label is another random blip of information to infinity and beyyyoonndddd

Edited Saturday at 03:53 AM by theoneandnone

[Inliytened1]

9 minutes ago, theoneandnone said:

Yeah the ego wants to manipulate things at will but maybe my God self set all this up like I’m pissed off I can’t change the dream content but I probably set all this up for a certain reason I should honestly be astonished at the beauty and work I’ve put into all of this. 

Exactly. Think of it like you're the developer now going back and playing the game.  As the player you still have to adhere to the rules of the game and for a moment you can forget you are the developer via imagination.   The only difference is you don't have direct access to the cheat codes at will.  You broke through the code once and realized your were the developer but it's not like  you gave yourself anytime access to the cheat codes now anytime you wanted. The reason for this is you weren't ready to leave the game.  If you had God mode access anytime you wanted there wouldn't be a game. And you love the game. 

Edited Saturday at 03:57 AM by Inliytened1

[theoneandnone]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Exactly. Think of it like you're the developer now going back and playing the game.  As the player you still have to adhere to the rules of the game and for a moment you can forget you are the developer via imagination.   The only difference is you don't have direct access to the cheat codes at will.  You broke through the code once and realized your were the developer but it not like  you gave yourself anytime access to the cheat codes now anytime you wanted. The reason for this is you weren't ready to leave the game.  If you had God mode access anytime you wanted there wouldn't be a game. And you love the game. 

Yeah I see what you are saying I’ll keep an open mind. As I’ve stated in other comments I don’t like to commit to one interpretation of this experience unfolding but I do appreciate what you have shared with me thank you! Also if this is the case would I ever be able to fly or do anything here or probably not til my text dream huh?

[Inliytened1]

19 minutes ago, theoneandnone said:

Yeah I see what you are saying I’ll keep an open mind. As I’ve stated in other comments I don’t like to commit to one interpretation of this experience unfolding but I do appreciate what you have shared with me thank you! Also if this is the case would I ever be able to fly or do anything here or probably not til my text dream huh?

The next dream could be completely different.

[Hojo]

@theoneandnoneThey are all happening at the same time. Its like everything overlayed over itself. You can turn your lights off focus on the empty space between your eyes and see the overlays.

Edited Saturday at 04:36 AM by Hojo

[Hojo]

41 minutes ago, theoneandnone said:

I would go even further and say the brain is still clinging to a self and is too materialistic. Everything is happening inside conscious experience but I agree that it’s a void of nothingness pure light signals and interpretations and random labels. What a mind fuck what  even is a mind am I a mind? There’s no me there’s just a dream playing with itself hell even dream is a label and even the world label is another random blip of information to infinity and beyyyoonndddd

I dont know man its super weird.

[Mellowmarsh]

What happens when the I tries to look at the I it is

All it sees is the I 

All it sees is it is I