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Beyond Psychedelics: The Grace and Limits of Consciousness Expansion

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1 hour ago, Eskilon said:

Agree with this. 

People downplay buddhism here all the time. But it has deep, deep truths. Desire IS the root of suffering. And liberation from all desire might be substantially different from awakening itself. 

You can awaken, but that doesnt mean you are free from doing. I think Buddha nailed both ends, that's why its difficult to understand.

in my experience buddhism is very right on the point of suffering. In terms of its perspective on Absolute reality im not sure.

Desire (AND clinging, which is very closely related) definetely is the root of all DISSATISFACTION, which in my experience is the most fundamental form of suffering. Desire is always a clinging to something that IS NOT CURRENTLY THE CASE. therefore desire is fundamentally dissatisfactory.

only if you cling to desire do you desire. and only if you desire your suffering to end do you truly suffer. after all, if you truly did not desire not to suffer; what would the problem be with suffering?

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7 hours ago, Eskilon said:

Agree with this. 

People downplay buddhism here all the time. But it has deep, deep truths. Desire IS the root of suffering. And liberation from all desire might be substantially different from awakening itself. 

You can awaken, but that doesnt mean you are free from doing. I think Buddha nailed both ends, that's why its difficult to understand.

Desires are not the main cause of suffering, eventually all your desires will be fullfilled in the ways you can't even imagine. Being god is also enjoying yourself and your desires, when the desire is fullfilled it will lose its grip automatically and new desires will show up to the point where you have to make yourself small again.

 

The reason people think desires are the main or root cause of suffering is because they didn't awaken enough yet. Desires will always be part of existence because you're eternal and always exist. Having no desires at all will feel like death, because there is no action anymore. And when there is no action you have to be with yourself forever.

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