Beyond Psychedelics: The Grace and Limits of Consciousness Expansion

[Jowblob]

7 hours ago, Eskilon said:

Agree with this. 

People downplay buddhism here all the time. But it has deep, deep truths. Desire IS the root of suffering. And liberation from all desire might be substantially different from awakening itself. 

You can awaken, but that doesnt mean you are free from doing. I think Buddha nailed both ends, that's why its difficult to understand.

Desires are not the main cause of suffering, eventually all your desires will be fullfilled in the ways you can't even imagine. Being god is also enjoying yourself and your desires, when the desire is fullfilled it will lose its grip automatically and new desires will show up to the point where you have to make yourself small again.

 

The reason people think desires are the main or root cause of suffering is because they didn't awaken enough yet. Desires will always be part of existence because you're eternal and always exist. Having no desires at all will feel like death, because there is no action anymore. And when there is no action you have to be with yourself forever.

[Eskilon]

On 21/09/2025 at 4:53 PM, emil1234 said:

in my experience buddhism is very right on the point of suffering. In terms of its perspective on Absolute reality im not sure.

Desire (AND clinging, which is very closely related) definetely is the root of all DISSATISFACTION, which in my experience is the most fundamental form of suffering. Desire is always a clinging to something that IS NOT CURRENTLY THE CASE. therefore desire is fundamentally dissatisfactory.

100%

Desire is just you chasing your own tail, it never ends. One comes, another is waiting for you. You cant truly become happy that way. That's why all ambition is bullshit.

[Eskilon]

On 21/09/2025 at 10:46 PM, Jowblob said:

Desires will always be part of existence because you're eternal and always exist

You can exist without desire. Hence you exist in deep sleep.

 

On 21/09/2025 at 10:46 PM, Jowblob said:

And when there is no action you have to be with yourself forever.

And what is the problem with that?

[Jowblob]

13 hours ago, Eskilon said:

You can exist without desire. Hence you exist in deep sleep.

 

And what is the problem with that?

You can't look beyond your own nose yet, your desire was to be here as a human from a state where you had everything. Desires and your eternal nature is the driving force of action which is fullfillment of desires. When there is no action and just your eternal nature without a physical body just the "screen" and no "sleep" you will understand. 

 

 

Edited September 24 by Jowblob