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Logical Proofs of God

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@Leo Gura i really enjoyed the latest episode on your proofs of God.   But where does Infinity of Gods fit into the proofs?  This wasn't mentioned unless I missed something.  Especially pertaining to the first proof of Oneness.  I know it doesn't contradict but it wasn't mentioned in the proof as a possibility. 

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First, Infinity must be realized. Then one can inquire ever deeper into what Infinity is.

The deeper you look into Infinity, the more weird aspects of it will emerge.

Infinity of Gods way beyond any kind of logical proof.

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4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

First, Infinity must be realized. Then one can inquire ever deeper into what Infinity is.

The deeper you look into Infinity, the more weird aspects of it will emerge.

Infinity of Gods way beyond any kind of logical proof.

That's true.  You definitely would have confused people lol.


 

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8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

First, Infinity must be realized. Then one can inquire ever deeper into what Infinity is.

The deeper you look into Infinity, the more weird aspects of it will emerge.

Infinity of Gods way beyond any kind of logical proof.

You should release a more advanced sequel that introduces paradox.  Paradox is still part of Absolute Logic. The Divine Logic of God.

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You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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33 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

First, Infinity must be realized. Then one can inquire ever deeper into what Infinity is.

The deeper you look into Infinity, the more weird aspects of it will emerge.

Infinity of Gods way beyond any kind of logical proof.

You also didn't get into reality being Awareness.  Or Consciousness.  If you did then you could also make a similar logical proof for Solpsism.  Again. Sequel.....


 

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1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

You also didn't get into reality being Awareness.  Or Consciousness. 

I didn't see a clear way to construct a logical proof of that.


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6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I didn't see a clear way to construct a logical proof of that.

The logical proof of self reflection. 


 

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20 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I didn't see a clear way to construct a logical proof of that.

The biggest mystery to me as a young child was how could anything exist unless I was conscious of it.  I. Me, the self. And that was first introduced by my third girlfriend who said her father had that question for her. It stuck with me for some reason. 

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4 hours ago, Razard86 said:

 

I know he has an episode on it I wanted to see it included in the proofs.


 

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11 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

I know he has an episode on it I wanted to see it included in the proofs.

Oh I get it. Yeah I wonder if he left it off because majority of humanity wouldn't understand it. The paradoxical nature of Infinity is an Expression of its Everythingness which for some reason is not fully understood by even the most avid forum spiritual seekers on this forum. So maybe paradox was left off because paradox is deemed illogical by the average mind and he wanted his video to appeal to those outside of this understanding.

If you understand that Reality is a constant paradox, you don't really need his logical proofs video you'd really only watch it for entertainment purposes.


You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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17 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Infinity of Gods way beyond any kind of logical proof.

Can infinity of God’s be as simple as infinite You’s?

You are God and so are you and you and you etc…..

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9 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Can infinity of God’s be as simple as infinite You’s?

You are God and so are you and you and you etc…..

Where are the infinite copies? The logical proof of Oneness explains how there is no actual separation anywhere. So where would these copies be?   That's where it would get more advanced.  You would have to grasp the proofs provided first and maybe have an awakening before Infinite God's could make sense.  But paradox is something that i think can he integrated in with the current proofs.

Spoiler: the proofs limit Infiniry to the laws of space and time.  Infinity is not bound by space or time.  This is why logical proofs can never capture reality.

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1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

Where are the infinite copies? The logical proof of Oneness explains how there is no actual separation anywhere. So where would these copies be?   That's where it would get more advanced.  You would have to grasp the proofs provided first and maybe have an awakening before Infinite God's could make sense.  But paradox is something that i think can he integrated in with the current proofs.

Spoiler: the proofs limit Infiniry to the laws of space and time.  Infinity is not bound by space or time.  This is why logical proofs can never capture reality.

Yes there is separation. The social construct consciousness is something that is not natural, is an invention anti life if you want. So there is separation. Because the idea of being interconnected is a mental idea of humans being linked in series, and that is not the case. One organism does not depend on another organism. That the plants produce oxygen for you, does not mean you are interconnected with plants. That we evolved from lesser forms of life means the same, that an organism like a mammal does not deepend on other organism to stay alive, not mentioning that an organism needs food, i'm talking strictly that an organism is not interconnected with another, only humans think that. Taking the exemple of being in space, having food and everything, you existance and being alive and continuing living does not depend on another organism per se. 

 

That all existence as matter comes from a bing bang, that is only a logical idea, was never proven, only in mathematics and not in practice as scientific experiment. Maybe we are more dependent on the constants of the universe than anything else, because we evolved this way, not that the universe fitted you and me, we fitted in the universe, adapted, evolved, etc. I think is more of a romantic spiritual pipe dream the idea of interconnectiveness. Because there is the creators, they exist, only on that reality humans believe and they graps that everything is interconnected, what people call the vibration of life or the vibration of existance or universal consciousness in other words. So yeah, thinking that God wants to experiment itself, is just the delusion of human consciousness and as i said, the spiritual pipe dream of only the self. Because the Creators still exist, they are not the universal consciousness of the living or the patterns of matter, they are something else at a level of the spirit realm or so called the astral realm, they are not entities. And yes i can prove this, but only to those really interested, there is the self and elightenment but also outside of self or outside existance and inside also, we have the source wich cannot be grasped, to much data. Can be experienced by esoterical techniques. 

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33 minutes ago, Salariatu said:

Yes there is separation. The social construct consciousness is something that is not natural, is an invention anti life if you want. So there is separation. Because the idea of being interconnected is a mental idea of humans being linked in series, and that is not the case. One organism does not depend on another organism. That the plants produce oxygen for you, does not mean you are interconnected with plants. That we evolved from lesser forms of life means the same, that an organism like a mammal does not deepend on other organism to stay alive, not mentioning that an organism needs food, i'm talking strictly that an organism is not interconnected with another, only humans think that. Taking the exemple of being in space, having food and everything, you existance and being alive and continuing living does not depend on another organism per se. 

 

That all existence as matter comes from a bing bang, that is only a logical idea, was never proven, only in mathematics and not in practice as scientific experiment. Maybe we are more dependent on the constants of the universe than anything else, because we evolved this way, not that the universe fitted you and me, we fitted in the universe, adapted, evolved, etc. I think is more of a romantic spiritual pipe dream the idea of interconnectiveness. Because there is the creators, they exist, only on that reality humans believe and they graps that everything is interconnected, what people call the vibration of life or the vibration of existance or universal consciousness in other words. So yeah, thinking that God wants to experiment itself, is just the delusion of human consciousness and as i said, the spiritual pipe dream of only the self. Because the Creators still exist, they are not the universal consciousness of the living or the patterns of matter, they are something else at a level of the spirit realm or so called the astral realm, they are not entities. And yes i can prove this, but only to those really interested, there is the self and elightenment but also outside of self or outside existance and inside also, we have the source wich cannot be grasped, to much data. Can be experienced by esoterical techniques. 

I have no idea what you are talking about.  You make @Breakingthewall seem easy to understand. 

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14 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I have no idea what you are talking about.  You make @Breakingthewall seem easy to understand. 

You know what they say about epistemology.....when you don't take it seriously......


You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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