Self is Still

[James123]

Right now, what you call "i" is not present. The body writes, laughs, talks, and smiles, yet the “me” or the mind is completely in deep sleep. The mind is asleep, but the so called eyes or consciousness, though there is no one to name it are still perceiving.

This is total giving up. No “me” arises.

In truth, there is no action.  Self is only still, unmoving, untouched, the silent witness in which all unfolds, while the body moves, laughs, and accepts, yet not through me. Self is only still, unmoving, untouched, the silent witness in which all unfolds.

Is there anything above this? Actually, no. Because the asker itself was the body and mind. When they vanish, there is no one left to ascend, to seek, or to know.

Only the moment, fully, effortlessly, completely.

Self is only still.

[Princess Arabia]

"Self is still" is limitation, a condition, a bias, an agenda, a purpose, meaning. I'm assuming you're referring to 'all there is' as the self. It isn't still, it's nothing and everything. 

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, James123 said:

Self is only still.

Such human crap. The human seeks; so it seeks to find what it's looking for in stillness. It has put a limitation on what is.

[James123]

13 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

"Self is still" is limitation, a condition, a bias, an agenda, a purpose, meaning. I'm assuming you're referring to 'all there is' as the self. It isn't still, it's nothing and everything. 

 

11 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Such human crap. The human seeks; so it seeks to find what it's looking for in stillness. It has put a limitation on what is.

Waves / thoughts are just on ocean. Movements, comes, goes. Even saying nothing and everything. Who say that it is nothing and everything? Find out that one.

When You are everything, You just Be, still.

Therefore, entire ocean is only still, Be.

Edited August 24 by James123

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, James123 said:

 

Waves / thoughts are just on ocean.

However, entire ocean is only still, Be.

You sound like a broken record.

[James123]

2 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

You sound like a broken record.

What mind / ego does is describing the Ocean.

However, Being the Ocean is still and Be.

Waves / thoughts are just on ocean. As Movements, comes, goes. Even saying nothing and everything. Who say that it is nothing and everything? Find out that one. 

When You are everything and nothing, You just Be, still.

[Sugarcoat]

I can’t know for others but for me it seems self, if we talk about it on relative level, is an active imagination. It’s not still but it tries to be still: in a good way, the goal is having a still nice self image. But it’s not possible because you can’t freeze something imaginary. So it becomes an effort that fails, I tried it many times. Dissolving the self implies stopping this mechanism that imagines the self. For me it didn’t happen.. I couldn’t stop that mechanism. But maybe for some it happens.

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I can’t know for others but for me it seems self, if we talk about it on relative level, is an active imagination. It’s not still but it tries to be still: in a good way, the goal is having a still nice self image. But it’s not possible because you can’t freeze something imaginary. So it becomes an effort that fails, I tried it many times. Dissolving the self implies stopping this mechanism that imagines the self. For me it didn’t happen.. I couldn’t stop that mechanism. But maybe for some it happens.

Life is going to be what it wants. There's no one there to dictate to life how it should be. 

[Sugarcoat]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

Life is going to be what it wants. There's no one there to dictate to life how it should be. 

I think as long as we feel like we have a choice it’s wise to try to make choices that we think will lead us to our goal, even if the goal is to go beyond that sense of choice. What else is there to do? 

[James123]

13 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I can’t know for others but for me it seems self, if we talk about it on relative level, is an active imagination. It’s not still but it tries to be still: in a good way, the goal is having a still nice self image. But it’s not possible because you can’t freeze something imaginary. So it becomes an effort that fails, I tried it many times. Dissolving the self implies stopping this mechanism that imagines the self. For me it didn’t happen.. I couldn’t stop that mechanism. But maybe for some it happens.

Completely surrender no matter what the results is, watch the thoughts till watcher and thoughts dissapears it's own. you can't drop you. Just be witness till witness disseappears.

[Sugarcoat]

4 minutes ago, James123 said:

Completely surrender no matter what the results is, watch the thoughts till watcher and thoughts dissapears it's own. you can't drop you. Just be witness till witness disseappears.

You must be talking about a different kind of watching because for me watching thought has not led to enlightenment 

[James123]

2 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

You must be talking about a different kind of watching because for me watching thought has not led to enlightenment 

When thoughts disseappears. Entire you and universe disappears.

 

[Sugarcoat]

46 minutes ago, James123 said:

When thoughts disseappears. Entire you and universe disappears.

 

When self dissapears*

[James123]

3 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

When self dissapears*

Your entire identity is based on experience and knowledge.

And guess what the essence of these?

[Sugarcoat]

22 minutes ago, James123 said:

Your entire identity is based on experience and knowledge.

And guess what the essence of these?

I think if you were born alone on isolated island you’d still develop a self

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Sugarcoat said:

You must be talking about a different kind of watching because for me watching thought has not led to enlightenment 

The future doesn't exist. Process is an illusion because time is illusory. "Led to Enlightenment?". No such thing.

 

 

 

Edited August 24 by Princess Arabia

[Sugarcoat]

11 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

The future doesn't exist. Process is an illusion because time is illusory. "Led to Enlightenment?". No such thing.

 

 

 

That’s why I’m not enlightened 😂👍🏻

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Sugarcoat said:

That’s why I’m not enlightened 😂👍🏻

No one is or everyone is. Pick one.

[Sugarcoat]

6 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

No one is or everyone is. Pick one.

From my limited perspective there’s a difference. You have to be non enlightened to say that😏

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

From my limited perspective there’s a difference. You have to be non enlightened to say that😏

What is enlightenment?