Why Judgment is Good But Discernment is Better

[Razard86]

What is judgment? Many people think judgment is just a perspective, but in truth judgment is an experience. Let's take a person who is allergic to peanuts. If this person eats peanuts they will have an extreme allergic reaction that will cause them to have a heart attack. For that person through no fault of there own, peanuts is BAD. So this person's judgment is not bad, it is good because they need that judgment to make the informed decision to not eat peanuts. Now with that said if that person goes further and says I wish peanuts never existed, this is when that person has erred.

You see discernment says yes peanuts are bad for me, but peanuts are good for those who are not allergic to it. The discernment allows that person to not be so self absorbed that they project their issues onto the entire world and seek to remove an aspect of the world just because they don't agree with it. A good Spiritual practice for that person maybe to see the beauty of peanuts despite them being allergic to it. 

Now someone might ask why do allergies exist from a Spiritual Perspective? The answer which is something you will come into contact with this work is this. God Infinite PURE Creativity. Since God chose to be Love, God loves to create infinitely everything and I do mean EVERYTHING. Really sit down and think about what everything is and realize it means EVERYTHING. Sickness, Discrimination, Pain, Unfairness, Ugly, Struggle, Drought, Famine, Allergies, Nightmares, Confusion, Illusion, Deception, Darkness, Aloneness, the list keeps going onward. The struggle of life is being able to accept the hugeness of Infinity that dwarfs your little human life. 

The human life is such a small thing in the vastness of Infinity that what is revealed is that your very humanness is actually what blocks you from being able to become and actualize TRUE SELF LOVE. The first task is to love your human body and your human life story, then the last task is to love all of existence equally to that. The only way you can pull this off is discernment. Many Spiritual Paths erroneously teach denial of the individual self BEFORE teaching the embracing of the individual self. You must first have a no holds barred embrace of the individual self before you can properly embrace the collective self.

All inner hatreds of the individual self will arise if you attempt to skip this step and that same hatred mechanism will then be projected onto the world at large. All hatred of the world is always absolutely rooted in hatred of the individual self. If you were truly happy with your position in life, with how you have chosen to live your life how could you ever truly hate the world? Only if you see yourself as a victim in some capacity can you truly harbor grudges of any kind.

So discernment is the path, at your level of discernment is the level you will operate in life and this is inextricably linked to your state of consciousness. From my own direct experience Self Inquiry and Contemplation is the path to grow in Self Love and the more Self Love you can realize the greater your experience will be felt. No amount of money can buy this, as its the greatest riches you can achieve. Picture being able to live everyday in perfect peace regardless of circumstances. I'm not talking faking your way to this state of consciousness I'm talking your daily experience is perfect peace and happiness.

When you break into the paradoxical nature of Consciousness you can become aware that you can be Angry and Purely Happy at the same time, you can be disappointed and Perfectly Happy at the same time, you can be Sad and Perfectly Happy at the same time. Can you become aware of your baseline happiness that is always there? You can with proper self acceptance of what you truly are.

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

This is really insightful - appreciate the thought and time you took to elaborate here

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 Now with that said if that person goes further and says I wish peanuts never existed, this is when that person has erred.

The judgement, thinking and then thought attachment to the self is generating internal hatred of the peanuts (hatred being wishing the 'thing' to be annihilated from existence). Deeming it to be erased due to the myopic view 'it is bad for me, who cares about others'. Completely ignoring the experience that someone else may have - the joy of hot, crunchy peanut butter on toast.

If this person where more discerning (which is open, clarity) they would see the truth of the peanuts - they are neither good nor bad. They are simply not chosen to be experienced due to negative outcome. The discernment encapsulates the wider view: noticing patterns, differences & truths with no condemnation. Appreciation for the peanuts is present, regardless of the effect on one's experience.

It is easy to see how judgement can function to block the truth! 

Judgement carries with it a closed finality - discernment opens clarity.

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Many Spiritual Paths erroneously teach denial of the individual self BEFORE teaching the embracing of the individual self. You must first have a no holds barred embrace of the individual self before you can properly embrace the collective self.

Oh! hell yeah - this is so common. Trying to intellectually understand without real experience and integration. Along with no structure to the teachings.

Edited August 24 by Natasha Tori Maru

[UnbornTao]

To add to that, "judgment is good" and "discernment is better" are judgments themselves. Could the act of identifying these require a quality of discernment? 

What's the distinction you make between perspective and experience? As I see it (;)), a perspective is a particular experience - a viewpoint, or a way of seeing some aspect of reality.

Is discernment a particular form of judgment? After all, a context of value seems to be behind both activities. 

Edited August 24 by UnbornTao

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 hour ago, UnbornTao said:

On the other hand, "judgment is good" and "discernment is better" are judgments themselves. 

Good catch - like 'Humility elevates you above others' a paradox that cancels itself

1 hour ago, UnbornTao said:

Is discernment a particular form of judgment? After all, a context of value seems to be behind both activities. 

I personally view a judgement as having an attachment - whereas discernment, rather, is detached. 

A judgement is a verdict, a conclusion. Evaluative/absolute/comparative

A discernment is not a verdict, merely a noticing of cause & effect. Observational/descriptive 

This is from a spiritual sort of interpretation

[UnbornTao]

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Good catch - like 'Humility elevates you above others' a paradox that cancels itself

I personally view a judgement as having an attachment - whereas discernment, rather, is detached. 

A judgement is a verdict, a conclusion. Evaluative/absolute/comparative

A discernment is not a verdict, merely a noticing of cause & effect. Observational/descriptive 

This is from a spiritual sort of interpretation

Hmm, yeah, that seems to be the case.

I wonder what others have to say about this.

Edited August 24 by UnbornTao

[James123]

8 hours ago, Razard86 said:

What is judgment? Many people think judgment is just a perspective, but in truth judgment is an experience. Let's take a person who is allergic to peanuts. If this person eats peanuts they will have an extreme allergic reaction that will cause them to have a heart attack. For that person through no fault of there own, peanuts is BAD. So this person's judgment is not bad, it is good because they need that judgment to make the informed decision to not eat peanuts. Now with that said if that person goes further and says I wish peanuts never existed, this is when that person has erred.

You see discernment says yes peanuts are bad for me, but peanuts are good for those who are not allergic to it. The discernment allows that person to not be so self absorbed that they project their issues onto the entire world and seek to remove an aspect of the world just because they don't agree with it. A good Spiritual practice for that person maybe to see the beauty of peanuts despite them being allergic to it. 

Now someone might ask why do allergies exist from a Spiritual Perspective? The answer which is something you will come into contact with this work is this. God Infinite PURE Creativity. Since God chose to be Love, God loves to create infinitely everything and I do mean EVERYTHING. Really sit down and think about what everything is and realize it means EVERYTHING. Sickness, Discrimination, Pain, Unfairness, Ugly, Struggle, Drought, Famine, Allergies, Nightmares, Confusion, Illusion, Deception, Darkness, Aloneness, the list keeps going onward. The struggle of life is being able to accept the hugeness of Infinity that dwarfs your little human life. 

The human life is such a small thing in the vastness of Infinity that what is revealed is that your very humanness is actually what blocks you from being able to become and actualize TRUE SELF LOVE. The first task is to love your human body and your human life story, then the last task is to love all of existence equally to that. The only way you can pull this off is discernment. Many Spiritual Paths erroneously teach denial of the individual self BEFORE teaching the embracing of the individual self. You must first have a no holds barred embrace of the individual self before you can properly embrace the collective self.

All inner hatreds of the individual self will arise if you attempt to skip this step and that same hatred mechanism will then be projected onto the world at large. All hatred of the world is always absolutely rooted in hatred of the individual self. If you were truly happy with your position in life, with how you have chosen to live your life how could you ever truly hate the world? Only if you see yourself as a victim in some capacity can you truly harbor grudges of any kind.

So discernment is the path, at your level of discernment is the level you will operate in life and this is inextricably linked to your state of consciousness. From my own direct experience Self Inquiry and Contemplation is the path to grow in Self Love and the more Self Love you can realize the greater your experience will be felt. No amount of money can buy this, as its the greatest riches you can achieve. Picture being able to live everyday in perfect peace regardless of circumstances. I'm not talking faking your way to this state of consciousness I'm talking your daily experience is perfect peace and happiness.

When you break into the paradoxical nature of Consciousness you can become aware that you can be Angry and Purely Happy at the same time, you can be disappointed and Perfectly Happy at the same time, you can be Sad and Perfectly Happy at the same time. Can you become aware of your baseline happiness that is always there? You can with proper self acceptance of what you truly are.

 

You are the moment. What You see is You, what You talk is You.

Drop the any knowledge, beliefs and ideas. Then Be the moment, and it is itself Love. Because, no separation is there.