What Do Bodily Contractions Point To?

[LoneWonderer]

At this point I've done 5 meo Malt (doses from 5 to 35mg) and have just started experimenting with psilocybin mushrooms (First dose about 1g). In all my trips (about 11 so far) I get these repeted contractions and releases around the chest and heart area and lots of emotional pain (more pronounced on 5 meo malt) on both substances. This is a constant in every trip so far and I don't know what to make of it. 

Is it processing undealt emotional trauma?

Is it something more concerning?

It seems that I am not processing this energy properly as it still shows up now after 11-15 trips (the latest mushroom trip these contractions lasted over an hour). I've been unable to break through to anything else so far just due to this contant energetic processing. I also don't know what this pain and emotional processing is linked to in my life, there is a disconnect between the emotions and what they are about.

I also don't believe it's my ego fighting to stay in control as I always set the intention throughout the trip of letting go no matter how uncomfortable that feels.

Would love your views and advice.

Cheers

Edited August 23 by LoneWonderer

[Davino]

3 hours ago, LoneWonderer said:

It seems that I am not processing this energy properly as it still shows up now after 11-15 trips

It's a long term process. I'm 100+ trips in and still working through them.

This is my understanding:
Don't worry because this is normal.

What happens?

Imagine your body as a fluid system. Now more fluid is introduced in the system and it flows more frenetically. This creates "bottlenecks" that weren't present before. That's what you are feeling in psychedelics.

What exactly are bottlenecks?

There are many ways to frame it. I sometimes see them as energetic/muscualr/biomemory contractions. Sometimes it may be karma or unresolved mind/body issues that are not consciously resolved and therefore unconsciously stored in the body (for example I had lots of fears in my ass, or insecurity in my stomach area). Now I simply see as the "lower" part of my energetic body, realising that I'm an organism or system that is continually evolving, there are parts of my psyche and self more evolved than others. So that contraction I'm feeling to release and resolve is only so in relation to the evolution of the rest of my body, but that same part, if took years ago, it would be the most evolved. This cleared the fear of how is it possible that after years of this work, I keep encountering "trauma", now I see, it's just the loose end of my system to be evolved, there are always rough edges so to speak.

Around 20 trips in I realized I couldn't just be doing this work "in the trips" that I had to find a way to evolve my energetic system everyday. That's when I experimented with many techniques and the ones that correlate more outside and inside trips for this matter are: Kundalini and vipassana. (advanced non-doing meditation also works, but it needs some skills, you have to become conscious that you are clinching that zone and then consciously releasing, like a fist so tight for so long you forgot you were even doing it).
So I'll leave you some resources:

 

 

 

[LoneWonderer]

Thank you @Davino  for your lengthy post. I appreciate it and will think over what you said. I will look at these videos.

[Carl-Richard]

Ask where it's coming from.

[Davino]

@LoneWonderer I know how challenging it is. Trust the process. You're not alone. This is a good sign in fact. You're becoming so conscious that your own body and energetic system is becoming the bottleneck for higher consciousness, that's already a crazy level of spiritual development. You can say I've become so conscious that my body couldn't hold it and started upgrading itself! 

[LambdaDelta]

I concur, especially with the 5-MeOs they seem particularly adept at changing the physical body on a very deep level, and towards the positive. Trauma, limiting beliefs, stuck energies, whatever you want to call it is found and cleared away, in the proper manner and pace for you. At one time 5MD stripped all the visuals for other substances, another it deeply connected me with the human experience through intense pain and involuntary contractions in my leg. Simply put, some rewiring is taking place, be at ease with it, trust it, and maybe try to concentrate awareness on it to expedite the process. 

[LoneWonderer]

Thank you everyone. This is all great advice. @LambdaDelta I will keep following the process and bring more awareness and report back to all you guys. 🙏

[theleelajoker]

Yeah, my experience resonates. Especially with @Davino replies.

For me, it's blocks, or stuck energy, or contractions especially in the stomach area, chest area and in the jaw up to the neck. I also have weird muscle contractions. Psylocibin works best for me to deal with it. Last big trip I cried for 10 minutes like hell and don't know why. Stanislav Grov did interesting work, for instance re the birth experience. 

It seems to me to be some complex interplay of nervous system, inner energies, cellular storage, muscular tensions, psyche. Call it trauma or past experiences, doesn't matter. 

There's two ways of looking at it: 

1. Shit I want to dissolve this! Sucks I can feel it it bothers me. It's a true challenge for me, for sure 
2. It's a privilege to feel that, to be so sensitive. Most people don't feel that much (like me in the past). 

Both POV are valid in some way, but the second one obviously is more useful re acceptance, the first one more useful to do what has been recommended before: integrate it in your life beyond psycedelics. For me, the best combination is classic ying-yang stuff. Functional training to strengthen the body, to put conscious tension on your body. And then literally yin yoga, I love to do that the days after trips. Breath work etc and infinite other ways of sports and movement that resonate with you.

One final note: I recommend to NOT go directly at this blockage points in your body. Especially with the Vipassana technique. I did this mistake and it was overwhelming in my case. Approach it very slowly, indirectly. You mention the heart for instance - if you know where the center of this feeling is, start your attention left and right, up and down from this spot. Circling it centimeter by centimeter, milimeter by millimeter. Don't stay there too long. Inshallah, these spots will slowly easy up and will become comfortable. 

Can be different for everyone of course so see how it's for you. Better cautious than sorry 

Edited August 25 by theleelajoker

[LoneWonderer]

@theleelajoker thank you

[Davino]

@theleelajoker I resonate with what you share. Yes, I forgot to mention the jaw, lots of tension is stored there as well. Releasing the jaw in psychedelics feels orgasmic.

Regarding not going to the spot with vipassana, I just love to go straight to the deepest tension but I've learnt to not overfocus either. You've gotta see the consciousness and emptiness of the core solidity. Then move on till you complete a cycle (what feels like an energetic completion) to go back again to the spot intensely. I really do my best to feel it and dissolve it. Very probably memories and thoughts will come as it's dissolving, let it all go through you without getting caught. That would be my advice.

This is a challenging process. I'm happy we are all sharing our bit. I liked the second perspective you shared, I never thought to frame it that way.

[Davino]

@LoneWonderer could you try any of the video recommendations?

[theleelajoker]

8 hours ago, Davino said:

@theleelajoker I resonate with what you share. Yes, I forgot to mention the jaw, lots of tension is stored there as well. Releasing the jaw in psychedelics feels orgasmic.

Regarding not going to the spot with vipassana, I just love to go straight to the deepest tension but I've learnt to not overfocus either. You've gotta see the consciousness and emptiness of the core solidity. Then move on till you complete a cycle (what feels like an energetic completion) to go back again to the spot intensely. I really do my best to feel it and dissolve it. Very probably memories and thoughts will come as it's dissolving, let it all go through you without getting caught. That would be my advice.

Yeah jaw is CRAZY! Most people I get to know tell me that they grind their teeth, that they use a mouthpiece at night (me too).  

I get you with going straight to the spot...I tried to direly dissolve it, did not manage this way. Indirect seems better for me for now. But great that it works differently for you everybody is unique : ) 

And not overfocusing...yeah, that seems crucial. Can happen easily

8 hours ago, Davino said:

This is a challenging process. I'm happy we are all sharing our bit. I liked the second perspective you shared, I never thought to frame it that way.

Definitely challenging. New territory. Also happy about the sharing. 

Can't take the credit for the framing though   Another user said sth like this in a different context (don't remember who) and for me it was worth adapting and sharing. Gave me..kind of new hope, you know?  I know people that are not in their body at all and maybe they wished they could feel like we do...

Edited August 28 by theleelajoker

[LoneWonderer]

On 28/08/2025 at 10:37 AM, Davino said:

@theleelajoker I resonate with what you share. Yes, I forgot to mention the jaw, lots of tension is stored there as well. Releasing the jaw in psychedelics feels orgasmic.

I had these jaw vibrations during my first trips on 5 meo Malt. I wouldn't say they were orgasmic for me just there. 

On 28/08/2025 at 10:37 AM, Davino said:

@LoneWonderer could you try any of the video recommendations?

I have added them to my watch later list. At this point in my life I am not serious enough about sitting down and taking on a spiritual practice. I've got many other basic survival things that take up all my mental energy and thoughta. I take psychedelics because they are "easy" compared to the meditative practices. I know I will eventually have to sit my a** down and do the hard work on a spiritual practice however right now unfortunately I haven't made it a priority. The problem with taking psychedelics is it's not resolving the root issue for me. My life hasn't changed in any meaningful way through taking psychedelics. I still get just as depressed as before, I still don't deal with my loneliness, I still avoid all my shadows. 

Leo is right that no amount of psychedelics will un fuck your life. They are not a magic pill. Improving your life is up to you. Still, I had secretly hoped they would've maybe removed my fear of facing the things I'm scared to face or given me new sense of purpose, meaning or insight ...but so far nothing even after taking high doses of powerful substances like 5 meo Malt. I know others have profound life changing experiences and I guess I kinda hoped and still do it could been the case for me too one day.

Edited August 29 by LoneWonderer

[Davino]

15 hours ago, LoneWonderer said:

I had these jaw vibrations during my first trips on 5 meo Malt. I wouldn't say they were orgasmic for me just there. 

The orgasm is in its release, not in becoming aware of the accumulated tension. It's like carrying a backpack for long, once you notice it's heaviness and you know how to leave it behind, then it's an orgasmic relief.

15 hours ago, LoneWonderer said:

At this point in my life I am not serious enough about sitting down and taking on a spiritual practice. I've got many other basic survival things that take up all my mental energy and thoughta. I take psychedelics because they are "easy" compared to the meditative practices. I know I will eventually have to sit my a** down and do the hard work on a spiritual practice however right now unfortunately I haven't made it a priority. 

That's fine for now. Although you'll continue to experience these symptoms in your trips. If you're not gonna work for them to dissolve, you'll have to become more adept at dealing with it in the moment of the trip and get used to that happening.

15 hours ago, LoneWonderer said:

The problem with taking psychedelics is it's not resolving the root issue for me. My life hasn't changed in any meaningful way through taking psychedelics. I still get just as depressed as before, I still don't deal with my loneliness, I still avoid all my shadows. 

Leo is right that no amount of psychedelics will un fuck your life. They are not a magic pill. Improving your life is up to you. Still, I had secretly hoped they would've maybe removed my fear of facing the things I'm scared to face or given me new sense of purpose, meaning or insight ...but so far nothing even after taking high doses of powerful substances like 5 meo Malt. I know others have profound life changing experiences and I guess I kinda hoped and still do it could been the case for me too one day.

I feel you. Maybe it's needed to diversify the tools and practices to deal with depression and loneliness. Usually therapy and classic personal development can do it. Psychedelics, spiritual practices and sport can also come in handy.  

 

The good thing about psychedelics is that it just needs to go right once for it to be life transforming. So keep having faith for that day brotha