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Is there any point to awakening in this life?

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@Princess Arabia

18 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

New insight for me. Never view solipsism in this way. I pretty much understood all you were saying in your statements. Most, if not all. This quote right here, though, made me view solipsism in a different light. As I speak about in my journal how everything is complete in and in of itself, even incompleteness, I just realized how solipsism has to be the case. The problem lies in it's interpretation. Sone see it as one person being alone, others are non-existent or NPC's or whatever. No, the person is total, whether or not they believe they're a real person/individual/separate or not.

Is this what you're saying about solipsism in your view, or am I interpreting your meaning differently from how you intended it?

Yes!

The word "whole" or "complete" is the most correct term; I’d encourage you to think of infinity as an "object" with "inherent properties." (Obviously, infinity, like God, is alive, since we are.) But this perspective helps clarify the logic.

What I mean by "object" and "properties" is this:

  • An apple is an object.
  • Its properties are: red, sweet, juicy, round, and crunchy.

One of God's (Object's) properties is being infinite. To be completely "infinite," God must integrate both the finite and the infinite. He connects (through Love/Union) all the finite parts, becoming both the finite and the infinite. Since it is all Him, it is all One (solipsism).

It’s just that, inherently, God is One because there is nothing "other" than Him, outside of Him. Hence, Solipsism.

To break it down further, imagine you have two boxes:

2Cube_Box-2.jpg

Box 1, Air, Box 2

(This is three "components." Two boxes and the air (boundary) between them.)

Now, God is both Box 1 and Air, and God is Box 2. So actually, you have:

God, God, God. 

Once any boundary between them dissolves, all you get is God touching God, being God. By simple logic, when everything is the same, it means everything is one. This is what’s known as solipsism.

We are all the same Big Self, God. Your lower self or ego isn’t God, but when you trip on something like 5-MeO-DMT, you may unite with the Big Self, God, meaning you, me, Leo, everything. One way to imagine this is by reflecting on when you were a baby. Often, you’d be completely unaware of boundaries between yourself, your mother, the objects you shouldn’t touch, or even how far your pain extends from yourself to the environment. Everything felt like a blur, united. As we grow, we try to maintain our sense of self, body, and ego, learning what forms are separate from us and what are not. This division creates our reality, which is why solipsism can seem so strange.

Does this make it clearer?


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3 minutes ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

@Princess Arabia

Yes!

The word "whole" or "complete" is the most correct term; I’d encourage you to think of infinity as an "object" with "inherent properties." (Obviously, infinity, like God, is alive, since we are.) But this perspective helps clarify the logic.

What I mean by "object" and "properties" is this:

  • An apple is an object.
  • Its properties are: red, sweet, juicy, round, and crunchy.

One of God's (Object's) properties is being infinite. To be completely "infinite," God must integrate both the finite and the infinite. He connects (through Love/Union) all the finite parts, becoming both the finite and the infinite. Since it is all Him, it is all One (solipsism).

It’s just that, inherently, God is One because there is nothing "other" than Him, outside of Him. Hence, Solipsism.

To break it down further, imagine you have two boxes:

2Cube_Box-2.jpg

Box 1, Air, Box 2

(This is three "components." Two boxes and the air (boundary) between them.)

Now, God is both Box 1 and Air, and God is Box 2. So actually, you have:

God, God, God. 

Once any boundary between them dissolves, all you get is God touching God, being God. By simple logic, when everything is the same, it means everything is one. This is what’s known as solipsism.

We are all the same Big Self, God. Your lower self or ego isn’t God, but when you trip on something like 5-MeO-DMT, you may unite with the Big Self, God, meaning you, me, Leo, everything. One way to imagine this is by reflecting on when you were a baby. Often, you’d be completely unaware of boundaries between yourself, your mother, the objects you shouldn’t touch, or even how far your pain extends from yourself to the environment. Everything felt like a blur, united. As we grow, we try to maintain our sense of self, body, and ego, learning what forms are separate from us and what are not. This division creates our reality, which is why solipsism can seem so strange.

Does this make it clearer?

Lol, it kinda made it more complicated, but I do understand what you're saying.


What you know leaves what you don't know and what you don't know is all there is. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Lol, it kinda made it more complicated, but I do understand what you're saying.

LOL... Oooooops! :ph34r: 

Glad it still helped! 💛🔅


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9 hours ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

@Princess Arabia

Yes!

The word "whole" or "complete" is the most correct term; I’d encourage you to think of infinity as an "object" with "inherent properties." (Obviously, infinity, like God, is alive, since we are.) But this perspective helps clarify the logic.

What I mean by "object" and "properties" is this:

  • An apple is an object.
  • Its properties are: red, sweet, juicy, round, and crunchy.

One of God's (Object's) properties is being infinite. To be completely "infinite," God must integrate both the finite and the infinite. He connects (through Love/Union) all the finite parts, becoming both the finite and the infinite. Since it is all Him, it is all One (solipsism).

It’s just that, inherently, God is One because there is nothing "other" than Him, outside of Him. Hence, Solipsism.

To break it down further, imagine you have two boxes:

2Cube_Box-2.jpg

Box 1, Air, Box 2

(This is three "components." Two boxes and the air (boundary) between them.)

Now, God is both Box 1 and Air, and God is Box 2. So actually, you have:

God, God, God. 

Once any boundary between them dissolves, all you get is God touching God, being God. By simple logic, when everything is the same, it means everything is one. This is what’s known as solipsism.

We are all the same Big Self, God. Your lower self or ego isn’t God, but when you trip on something like 5-MeO-DMT, you may unite with the Big Self, God, meaning you, me, Leo, everything. One way to imagine this is by reflecting on when you were a baby. Often, you’d be completely unaware of boundaries between yourself, your mother, the objects you shouldn’t touch, or even how far your pain extends from yourself to the environment. Everything felt like a blur, united. As we grow, we try to maintain our sense of self, body, and ego, learning what forms are separate from us and what are not. This division creates our reality, which is why solipsism can seem so strange.

Does this make it clearer?

That's not entirely correct.  Gods properties doesn't include that is Infinite. It IS Infinite. There is a difference and that difference is between the level of concept and Being. 


 

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