Neck movement and spontaneous mudras during meditation

[decentralized]

I’ve had these spontaneous neck movements in the shape of 8 and spontaneous mudras over a year now. Before they started I could be still in meditation. 🧘 I had a break from meditation after a spiritual crisis but now that I feel much better I want to start again. The point I am trying to make is that I don’t know what I should do with these spontaneous movements during meditation, I also have jaw movements, a restless leg, even my big toes move and crack. I suspect all of them have something to do with Qi or Kundalini energy because they all started after a significant awakening.
Should I let them happen and observe the sensations or try to be still?

[theleelajoker]

Welcome to my life stranger! Seems there is some synchronicity happening 😂 

I experience things like this too. My body twitching and moving, sometimes jerking violently, sometimes smoothly moving, also in an 8 like you see in snake charming. Neck and jaw are where the main movements appear, lots of cracking in my spine. 

• Also started for me after significant awakening experience during meditation retreat. 
• I also took a break from meditation for few weeks and now slowly get into it again. Also had a rough, a tough phase of integration / transition period. 
• I also attribute it to Kundalini 
• Moreover, I feel regularly like throwing up in daily life. Never happened, but my body is clearly going though a re-calibration. It's accompanied by getting high a bit, like weed or sometimes small dosis of MDMA. 

My approach: I can't sit still anymore, and I don't even try to force stillness. I let the energy do it's stuff because I believe holding it back will be counter - productive. I sometimes try to direct the energy in a very,very subtle way, but mainly my goal is to feel it and synchronize with it, align my movements with the energy flows. 

For this, I feel tensions, or dense areas and either focus on just feeling or on relaxing these parts. Or doing nothing but being aware. I then typically feel the energy rising, how and where, and what it's trying to "tell me" re movement. Then I move my body to harmonise my flow or offer minimal resistance and maximum letting go.

At least I do this for the subtle flows. For the violent ones I am just an obsever, it's really like being possessed or controlled by this energy. Very interesting experience, loosing control over my body like that...

The reasons I "just let it happen" is because it's feels like it's positively influencing my nervous system. I also see positive changes in my external reality and my interactions with others...so I trust it to do its job

Side note: parallel to the stuff above I suddenly get feedback about my eyes 👀. I think I got more compliments about them in two months then in 20 years before. One woman asked me to send her pictures of them. Spiritual version of dick pic haha 😆 

So this energy seems to have some effect that is somehow visible to others although I don't see any difference myself in the mirror 🤷

Edited Sunday at 09:51 PM by theleelajoker

[decentralized]

@theleelajoker omg you have these too?! I love synchronicities!

Thank you for your answer, trying to be still tensed me up but flowing with it until at least I release some tension sounds good! 

[theleelajoker]

Yeah also still have lots of tension but the trend is clearly going towards relaxation. Key is for me to not create tensions again in daily life but flowing as much as possible in any situation.

Jaw tension is key for me, being aware of tensions there is a good indicator. I'm watching my thoughts and breath more lately this helps too 

Edit: today I realized I need to dance! Body wants to move - OK let's move! Will pick a club with good music and then release as much as possible:) 

Edited Sunday at 09:58 PM by theleelajoker

[decentralized]

12 minutes ago, theleelajoker said:

Yeah also still have lots of tension but the trend is clearly going towards relaxation. Key is for me to not create tensions again in daily life but flowing as much as possible in any situation.

Jaw tension is key for me, being aware of tensions there is a good indicator. I'm watching my thoughts and breath more lately this helps too 

Edit: today I realized I need to dance! Body wants to move - OK let's move! Will pick a club with good music and then release as much as possible:) 

Do you have any idea how long will it take to release all the tension? Is it even possible to stop these spontaneous movements at all? Today I started learning tai chi and it helped a lot already  

[theleelajoker]

Don't know how long it will take.

Don't know if it's possible to stop at all.

If I had to GUESS, then I would say it stops when resistance reached very low levels / zero. And GUESSING again, I think it's a dynamic process, the more integration, the more flowing with life, the faster body is re-calibrated to hold this energy.

A friend told me about a body and mind 3-D to 5-D transition, don't know how much there is too it. Getting goosebumps also a lot, when me or others talk about certain topics, or when there is a intensity behind their words. 

Tai chi seems like a very good idea! Many years ago I did a course, but I wasn't "feeling" it,  you know what I mean?

For sure I would be feeling it today hahahahah

@Davino had good input re diet in a other thread, maybe worth to take a look for you. Something is happening re you and me, so let's find out how to make the best out of it

Edited Monday at 06:30 AM by theleelajoker

[emil1234]

i experience the same. 

My approach is; it requires more effort of me to still the movements than not to. So I just let it happen; it feels right and healthy, energy moving through the body. I take it as a good thing

[theleelajoker]

@emil1234 welcome to the club!  

[Petals]

@decentralized 

 

[theleelajoker]

1 hour ago, Petals said:

@decentralized 

 

Yeah, so in general resonates what the guys says. The people just seem to make a very big thing out of it, you know?  "Deep spiritual work", organized practices and discipline, effort, and so on. People seem soooo serious about it. 

For me, it's everyday stuff, everyday interactions where I am affected most, where I changed the most and where I strive for most integration and growth. And everyday is nice when it's fun and playful, right?

Moreover, the kryas are spontaneous, so why make the effort of organized practice, you know? And for me it started out of deep stillness, and now it's spontaneous - so personally I'm not into this whole efforts and discipline stuff. Leo is also always sooo serious about these things. Serious work, yeah yeah sure whatever makes you happy 😃 

My POV: Let's have a bit less seriousness, less effort, and more fun, more freedom about this whole thing, won't we?

I definitely have my lows, can't do the fun and light state all the time (yet) but I strive as much and as often as I can. Ever wondered how connected the words light, lightness and enlightened are? 😁

Edited Monday at 02:53 PM by theleelajoker